Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage

2016-02-08 Thread aitor_czr
On 02/09/2016 06:21 AM, Go Linux wrote: easynetaid was renamed this afternoon as per edbarx's post to #devuan: As suggested by Jaromil netman was renamed to simple-netaid. Changes pushed. golinux I was waiting for some possible last-minute changes. So now, i will replace netman-gtk by s

Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage

2016-02-08 Thread Simon Wise
On 09/02/16 16:20, Go Linux wrote: On Mon, 2/8/16, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, February 8, 2016, 10:47 PM On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:04:44AM +1100, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote: Hi, From a deb

Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage

2016-02-08 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/8/16, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, February 8, 2016, 10:47 PM On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:04:44AM +1100, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote: > Hi, > > From a debian jessie 8.3 with gnome I did an up

Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage

2016-02-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:04:44AM +1100, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote: > Hi, > > From a debian jessie 8.3 with gnome I did an upgrade to devuan, but I got > many issues: > - I had to remove manually systemd once rebooted > - An apt autoremove actually did remove all gnome. > > Then from a desktop

[DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage

2016-02-08 Thread Sylvain BERTRAND
Hi, From a debian jessie 8.3 with gnome I did an upgrade to devuan, but I got many issues: - I had to remove manually systemd once rebooted - An apt autoremove actually did remove all gnome. Then from a desktop perspective, what should I expect to work? I'm targetting usage level similar to

Re: [DNG] pi-vuan update (was: Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero)

2016-02-08 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 08:30:28AM +, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > The problem wouldn't be compiling the packages, which can be done with > a cross-compiler + toolchain on any more powerful piece of hw, but > perhaps putting together an entire port for such a specific target, > although it is a

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 12:25:54 + David Harrison wrote: > On 08/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > However, it is undeniable that with the 5$ pi-zero out there will be > > pis everywhere, and there is no reason to add init lock-in to boot > > and graphics lock-in. In a word, it

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 11:14:26 +0100, info wrote in message <56b86a82.1050...@smallinnovations.nl>: > I have several Pi's B+, 2B and A+ in use or in use by others as > webradio client, personal backup cloud with btsync (6 Pi's and 3 Tb > disks), ..set up how, if you have a recipe? > webradioserv

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 08:30:28 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160208083028.gd...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 07:35:24AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: > > > >>My understanding is that both the rpi0 and rpi1 are bas

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 12:25:54PM +, David Harrison wrote: > On 08/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > >However, it is undeniable that with the 5$ pi-zero out there will be > >pis everywhere, and there is no reason to add init lock-in to boot and > >graphics lock-in. In a word,

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread David Harrison
On 08/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: However, it is undeniable that with the 5$ pi-zero out there will be pis everywhere, and there is no reason to add init lock-in to boot and graphics lock-in. In a word, it would be much better to have a systemd-free distro for pis, and from m

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

2016-02-08 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 08 Feb 2016, aitor_czr wrote: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 02:00:26PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I did all necessary changes in the netman project to rename it to: > > "easynetaid" which is unique on google. > > That is a good name. Simple, unique, and descriptiv

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-08 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > whichever bugs I might in your work, not the fact that your are > > doing good work here. > I beg your pardon for that, I was tired from trolling, it can happen. we have had plenty of trolling and takes time to settle the nerves to a normal state. N

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 08:18:40PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: [cut] > > I think that depends on what one expects. If someone gets one of > these, and hopes it can replace a modern desktop/laptop, then that > person will indeed be frustrated. I wanted to use mine as a router > possibly running i

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread info at smallinnovations.nl
On 08-02-16 07:35, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Message: 3 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 14:26:43 +1100 From: Ozi Traveller To: Gregory Nowak Cc: dng Subject: Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I have 3 raspberry pi's

Re: [DNG] Migration to devuan Jessie failed on rpi-zero

2016-02-08 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 07:35:24AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:27:19PM +1100, Simon Wise wrote: > > >>My understanding is that both the rpi0 and rpi1 are based on a ARMv6 > > >>chip, which makes them closer to armel than to armhf. So, I'm afraid > > >>you're stuck with