Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-30 Thread Robert Storey
> From: Clarke Sideroad > To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" > Subject: Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires > libsystemd0 > Message-ID: <56ac51e1.6020...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > In a similar vein Calculate Linux has IMO well put together grou

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500, Haines wrote in message <20160131002648.gg8...@engels.historicalmaterialism.info>: > I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for > quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or > safe-upgrade for the first time after sev

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Mitt Green
Go Linux wrote:>Needless to say, I am NOT going to install it.Why not then pin libsystemd0 two times,both "old APT" and "new APT (>1.1)" ways?As we have been discussing pinning for a while now,you probably have seen the "new way."Avoiding libsystemd0 without angband.pl repos isnot possible yet thou

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Mitt Green
‎Haines Brown wrote: >systemd-udevd seems to have switched my wireless interface >f‎rom wlan0 to wlp3s0. I highly recommend to use udev from Wheezy/Jessie on Unstable and pin the package ("apt hold udev"). Vdev one day will be our default device manager anyway. The correct way to prevent a packa

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:05:02 +0100 (CET), Rainer wrote in message : > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..as a first step, we should mimick qubes-os.org sans systemd > > and/or pc etc hardware, so we can see and learn etc how etc > > systemd does what it does in qubes-os, Debian,

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for > quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or > safe-upgrade for the first time after [snip] > Systemd is not on the system, so where did systemd-login

[DNG] Wifi device names: was systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for > quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or > safe-upgrade for the first time after several months since the Sid > installation systemd-udevd seems to

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 1/30/16, Haines Brown wrote: Subject: [DNG] systemd is haunting me To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016, 6:26 PM I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or safe-upgrade for the

[DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Haines Brown
I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or safe-upgrade for the first time after several months since the Sid installation systemd-udevd seems to have switched my wireless interface from wlan0 to wlp3s0. Changi

Re: [DNG] netman: adding adequate help

2016-01-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, The manpage's source file, netman.1, is ready and I also added netman.1.gz to netman's sources. I can instruct netman-backend.install to copy netman.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1. What should I do? Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-30 Thread Ozi Traveller
+1 yes please! On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Rainer H. Rauschenberg < rain...@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..as a first step, we should mimick qubes-os.org sans systemd > > and/or pc etc hardware, so we can see and learn etc how etc > > system

Re: [DNG] netman: adding adequate help

2016-01-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I think, the manpage should be part of netman-backend as this is a dependency of netman-gui. Where in the source's tree should I place the source for the manpage and in what format should this file be? I can manually create a netman-backend.manpages file. Edward On 30/01/2016, Rainer Weikus

Re: [DNG] netman: adding adequate help

2016-01-30 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > I can now view the newly created netman page using the command: > groff -man -Tascii ./netman-0.1.1/netman0.1.1.man | less > > The man page looks correct. Now the question is: How am I going to add > the man page to my netman project? The file should have a section number

Re: [DNG] netman: adding adequate help

2016-01-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I can now view the newly created netman page using the command: groff -man -Tascii ./netman-0.1.1/netman0.1.1.man | less The man page looks correct. Now the question is: How am I going to add the man page to my netman project? Edward ___ Dng mailin

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 15:20:43 +, Rainer wrote in message <871t8zjdpw@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com>: > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:15:40 +, hellekin wrote in message > > <56aca96c.3030...@dyne.org>: > >> On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [...

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/01/2016 13:23, hellekin a écrit : I'm not anti-systemd. Systemd has the right to exist, like slugs, bugs, rats, bullshit, bad coffee, or cyanide. I just don't want to have anything to do with it Well, in that sense, you can count me as pro-systemd :-) I support the right of bugs to

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-30 Thread fsmithred
On 01/27/2016 04:05 PM, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Hi, > > 2016-01-27 17:11 GMT+01:00, Mitt Green : >> I am using Yahoo!Mail as well, and wonder, whether my emails >> are delivered. > > Your emails are delivered into my spam folder. > Anything I try to get them anywhere else ends with your emails >

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > How does that apply to people who resend it? After all, the net effect > of that is "create more archived copies of it" and "draw more attention > to it". And it isn't particularly worthy of either. +1 seems like kindergarten in here _

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 1/30/16, hellekin wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016, 6:15 AM [cut] I'm sorry to tell you, Arnt Karlsen, that the only correct answer you should have made is to apologize for thi

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Arnt Karlsen writes: > On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:15:40 +, hellekin wrote in message > <56aca96c.3030...@dyne.org>: >> On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [...] >> I'm sorry to tell you, Arnt Karlsen, that the only correct answer you >> should have made is to apologize for this sexist,

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:15:40 +, hellekin wrote in message <56aca96c.3030...@dyne.org>: > On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) > >>> > >>> The preceding half sentence is one example of something that > >>> should NEVER appear in any Devuan venu

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 12:23:02 +, hellekin wrote in message <56acab26.8070...@dyne.org>: > On 01/27/2016 07:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > We anti-systemd people are already a tiny minority. > > > > Indeed, Steve, *you* are. > > I'm not anti-systemd. Systemd has the right to exist, like s

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Rainer Weikusat
hellekin writes: > On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [something] > I'm sorry to tell you, Arnt Karlsen, that the only correct answer you > should have made is to apologize for this sexist, thoughtless, idiotic > comment. How does that apply to people who resend it? After all, the net

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-30 Thread Rainer H. Rauschenberg
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..as a first step, we should mimick qubes-os.org sans systemd > and/or pc etc hardware, so we can see and learn etc how etc > systemd does what it does in qubes-os, Debian, Tails, Whonix, > JohnDoe, etc so we can come up with ways to e.g. prevent syste

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread hellekin
On 01/27/2016 07:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > We anti-systemd people are already a tiny minority. > Indeed, Steve, *you* are. I'm not anti-systemd. Systemd has the right to exist, like slugs, bugs, rats, bullshit, bad coffee, or cyanide. I just don't want to have anything to do with it, and sy

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread hellekin
On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) >>> >>> The preceding half sentence is one example of something that should >>> NEVER appear in any Devuan venue. Ever. >>> > > > ..either way, > I'm sorry to tell you, Arnt Karlsen, that the only correct answer yo

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-30 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 29/01/16 23:07, richard lucassen wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:54:22 + > I'm very pleased to see that someone is building a libsystemdfree > xorg. > But what about security updates? We will track debians security updates and where an update to a package that we maintain comes out, we w

Re: [DNG] Ad filtering and blocking

2016-01-30 Thread Bart Cornelis
On Sunday 2016-01-24 17:43 dev1fanboy wrote: > Firefox used to have a way to block "third party" images, or just block all > images and then add exceptions.. not sure where those features are gone. have a look at the umatrix addon [1], it lets you completely control what resoures a site gets to l