[DNG] amounter 0.2.0-alpha released

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, You can grab the Amounter thumb drive automounter from https://github.com/stevelitt/amounter . Be careful: This code works for me, but it *does* do unmounts and rmdirs, and it's alpha quality code, so I'd test it first on a less important computer. SteveT Steve Litt November 2015 featur

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:30:44 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I installed LXDE into my devuan alpha 2 system, but I do not know how > to ask for it. My system boots into a green login screen and when I > log in it starts me off with xfce instead. In the old days when I > ran Debian, it would start

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 03:11:48 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20151230031148.2e327...@nb6.lan>: > Hum, > > ..have I seen this before?: http://dilbert.com/strip/2012-09-27 > > ..todays translation: http://heltnormalt.no/dilbert/2015/12/29 > > ..key to improved relevance: https://translate.google.c

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 01:10:58PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 10:42:15 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Are there other window > > managers we could use in the name of minimalism? > > There are approximately one million, three hundred and thirty two > thousand, one hundred a

Re: [DNG] What's "Armstrong"? (was: Fw: Question: eth0 vs enp1s0)

2015-12-29 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 12/29/15, Jim Murphy wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] What's "Armstrong"? (was: Fw: Question: eth0 vs enp1s0) To: "dng" Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 6:57 PM On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Steve Litt writes: >> My response is below the original message. I ca

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-29 Thread Wim
Yes, it's gone. Probably just a hijacked account. Sorry for the gossip ;-) Cheers, Wim 2015-12-30 2:05 GMT+01:00 dev1fanboy : > page shows as not existing my end > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:27 PM, Teodoro Santoni < > asbras...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hiya, > > > > 2015-12-29 21:08 GMT+01

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-29 Thread dev1fanboy
page shows as not existing my end On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:27 PM, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Hiya, > > 2015-12-29 21:08 GMT+01:00, Wim : >> Hi List, >> >> I'm not sure this is really appropriate for this list, but here goes: >> >> Ian Murdock, one of Debian's founder is threatening via Twi

Re: [DNG] What's "Armstrong"? (was: Fw: Question: eth0 vs enp1s0)

2015-12-29 Thread Jim Murphy
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Steve Litt writes: >> My response is below the original message. I can't respond on >> debian-user, because I have Armstrong Syndrome... > > I've so far learnt that it's "Don Armstrong" who seems to be a Debian > maintainer. But that's sur

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 12/30/2015 12:03 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: Out of the description it seems to come out of a Devuan dream, both for what it provides and for what it doesn't. You can try, deb packages are there: http://mirror.org.rs/lumina/ Source: git clone https://github.com/pcbsd/lumina.git briefly: light

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread aitor_czr
On 12/29/2015 11:35 PM, richard white wrote: Another suggestion would be the Lumina desktop. > >http://lumina-desktop.org/ > >It does not use any of the Linux-based desktop frameworks directly. >Instead, it relies on one class for communication with the system. >Which make easy to port. That so

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/12/2015 21:34, richard white a écrit : Another suggestion would be the Lumina desktop. http://lumina-desktop.org/ It does not use any of the Linux-based desktop frameworks directly. Instead, it relies on one class for communication with the system. Which make easy to port. Waouh! Ou

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

2015-12-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/12/2015 19:20, marc a écrit : Nope - not completely isolated. Applications that actually require on-disk consistency invoke things such as fsync(2). Every year or so there is a random blog post which notices that if you truly care about your data, you'd better do fsync(2), fdatasync(2) and

[DNG] What's "Armstrong"? (was: Fw: Question: eth0 vs enp1s0)

2015-12-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > My response is below the original message. I can't respond on > debian-user, because I have Armstrong Syndrome... I've so far learnt that it's "Don Armstrong" who seems to be a Debian maintainer. But that's surely not a household word in itself. ? ___

[DNG] Fw: Question: eth0 vs enp1s0

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Litt
My response is below the original message. I can't respond on debian-user, because I have Armstrong Syndrome... Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 19:34:43 +0100 From: Hans To: debian-u...@lists.debian.org Subject: Question:

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:34:20 -0500 richard white wrote: > Another suggestion would be the Lumina desktop. > > http://lumina-desktop.org/ > > It does not use any of the Linux-based desktop frameworks directly. > Instead, it relies on one class for communication with the system. > Which make easy

[DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread richard white
Another suggestion would be the Lumina desktop. http://lumina-desktop.org/ It does not use any of the Linux-based desktop frameworks directly. Instead, it relies on one class for communication with the system. Which make easy to port. -Rich ___ Dng mai

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-29 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Hiya, 2015-12-29 21:08 GMT+01:00, Wim : > Hi List, > > I'm not sure this is really appropriate for this list, but here goes: > > Ian Murdock, one of Debian's founder is threatening via Twitter to commit > suicide after being beaten by Police twice. See: > > https://twitter.com/imurdock > > The mos

[DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-29 Thread Wim
Hi List, I'm not sure this is really appropriate for this list, but here goes: Ian Murdock, one of Debian's founder is threatening via Twitter to commit suicide after being beaten by Police twice. See: https://twitter.com/imurdock The most logical thing seems to be some troll hijacked his Twitt

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:29:21 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 09:46:04AM +0100, richard lucassen wrote: > > Please do not forget WindowMaker which has been a lightweight, > > highly configurable and stable wm for many years. > > I used to swear by it, somewhere around 1998-

[DNG] Windowmaker: was Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:46:04 +0100 richard lucassen wrote: > Please do not forget WindowMaker which has been a lightweight, highly > configurable and stable wm for many years. > > R. Hi Richard, I've been trying to understand Windowmaker since 1999, and have failed. That's why I didn't mention

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Dave Turner
Messing with xfce sounds like mission-creep to me. Does xfce need messing with in any way to get rid of systemd dependencies? Then do it. Otherwise, leave well alone. I run debian jessie with systemd on my iMac and my main laptop because they need to work. Just about all packages seem to have ma

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread richard lucassen
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:29:21 +0100 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 09:46:04AM +0100, richard lucassen wrote: > > Please do not forget WindowMaker which has been a lightweight, > > highly configurable and stable wm for many years. > > I used to swear by it, somewhere around 1998-20

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

2015-12-29 Thread marc
> Who "have to wait" ? Apps don't have to: they get the data from > cache and write to cache. Maybe the disk-write policy depends on the IO > scheduler as the read policy does, but this layer is completely isolated > from the applications. Nope - not completely isolated. Applications that a

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

2015-12-29 Thread Simon Hobson
Didier Kryn wrote: >Down to zero? Depends on what the system is doing ! I've just checked several of my systems, one showed 12k when I logged in and dropped to 0. OK, that's a router so doesn't do much disk I/O - just a bit of logging. Another (my mail server amongst other things) showed 3

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

2015-12-29 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 12/29/15, aitor_czr wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter To: "Emiliano Marini" , "Steve Litt" , "dng" Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 9:31 AM On 12/29/2015 01:00 PM, Emiliano Marini wrote: >> Besides jokes jaam sounds cool :) > +1 :) -

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

2015-12-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/12/2015 16:34, Simon Hobson a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote: That's the logic one would naively expect but I'm not sure of it. I'm afraid the data remains in the cache and not backed-up to disk until some process needs room in the cache. You can do the experiment of writing data to a

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

2015-12-29 Thread Simon Hobson
Didier Kryn wrote: >That's the logic one would naively expect but I'm not sure of it. I'm > afraid the data remains in the cache and not backed-up to disk until some > process needs room in the cache. You can do the experiment of writing data to > a usb memory stick and then wait long aft

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

2015-12-29 Thread aitor_czr
On 12/29/2015 01:00 PM, Emiliano Marini wrote: Besides jokes jaam sounds cool:) +1 :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 09:46:04AM +0100, richard lucassen wrote: > Please do not forget WindowMaker which has been a lightweight, highly > configurable and stable wm for many years. I used to swear by it, somewhere around 1998-2000. Then, out of nostalgia, I recently given it a look -- and faile

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

2015-12-29 Thread Emiliano Marini
Besides jokes jaam sounds cool :) On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Chandler Wise wrote: > I still prefer JAAM though... :P > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:07 PM, dev1fanboy > wrote: > >> the 'd' would be a little annoying, but many programs use a joke in the >> name >> >> I thought a-mount becau

Re: [DNG] Name of the thumb drive automounter

2015-12-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/12/2015 03:07, dev1fanboy a écrit : the 'd' would be a little annoying, but many programs use a joke in the name The 'd' is usually added to the name of the command which runs as a daemon. The package name must not include it, eg: ssh, sshd ntp, ntpd ftp, ftpd telnet, telnetd system

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 28/12/2015 21:35, Mitt Green a écrit : Editor war will never end even though everybody knows that vi(m) is the best. Please stop the war. Anyway a text editor is off topic here. It has nothing to do with a desktop environment. Didier _

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread richard lucassen
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:45:26 +0900 Hughe Chung wrote: > Debian installer offers four major DEs as an option: GNOME, KDE, > Xfce, LXDE. > > For a decade, I've been using Fluxbox as window manager. I have no > intend to change any window manager over Fluxbox unless there is > significant benefit

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 28/12/2015 12:59, Mitt Green a écrit : I'd suggest to have the following applications by default (by categories from Applications Menu): 1) Accessories: xarchiver, xfce4-appfinder, mousepad; 2) Games: xlennart :) 3) Graphics: ristretto; 4) Internet: iceweasel, transmission-gtk, xchat, netman