Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote, emails?

2015-12-14 Thread aitor_czr
On 12/15/2015 01:27 AM, Timo Buhrmester wrote: 52 User-Agent: Jaro Mail Cloning it from git... https://github.com/dyne/JaroMail I use Iceweasel. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.d

Re: [DNG] 'No choice' not limited to systemd's reach

2015-12-14 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 12/14/15, Teodoro Santoni wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] 'No choice' not limited to systemd's reach To: "Go Linux" Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, December 14, 2015, 7:38 PM > > Good evening, > >2015-12-15 0:24 GMT+01:00, Go Linux : >> I found an app that limits user choice apart fro

Re: [DNG] 'No choice' not limited to systemd's reach

2015-12-14 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Good evening, 2015-12-15 0:24 GMT+01:00, Go Linux : > I found an app that limits user choice apart from systemd - avidemux. I > have 2.6.8 installed and it locks up after the play button is pressed and > then the stop button. This seems to be because because I have chosen > AlsaDefault and do N

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:08:34 +0100 Florian Zieboll wrote: > > Hi Edward, > > > > Claws-Mail works perfectly fine with gmail, as does any other IMAP > > capable mail client I know. > > This may sound a bit rude, but come on, you are writing a rather > > complex piece of software and give up on

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:57:58 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > On 14/12/2015, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > > Actually you *can* quote previous replies with gmail classic (and > > javascriptnightmare gmail too): click on "reply to all" and use the > > form, avoid the rapid reply dumbery. > > Hi Teodor

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 17:23:20 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > And an advantage of mutt is that it does *not* automatically open > > html or other non-plain-text files on you/ > > Neither does Claws-Mail, unless you have added the respective add-ons. I previously replied that any mail c

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:46:19 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my > computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. I tried claws-mail > without success

[DNG] 'No choice' not limited to systemd's reach

2015-12-14 Thread Go Linux
I found an app that limits user choice apart from systemd - avidemux. I have 2.6.8 installed and it locks up after the play button is pressed and then the stop button. This seems to be because because I have chosen AlsaDefault and do NOT have pulseaudio installed. If I install Lennart's rubb

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:46:19PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my > computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. I tried claws-mail > without su

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Florian Zieboll
Sorry for not-wrapped mail... Wrapped version follows: On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 23:58:35 +0100 Florian Zieboll wrote: > Hi Edward, > > Claws-Mail works perfectly fine with gmail, as does any other IMAP > capable mail client I know. Just RTFL (yes, the connection log!) to > find out that you need

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:46:19 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > I tried claws-mail without success: the gmail server refused to > connect. Hi Edward, Claws-Mail works perfectly fine with gmail, as does any other IMAP capable mail client I know. Just RTFL (yes, the connection log!) to find out that

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Timo Buhrmester
> What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > quote previous replies? Mutt. > I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my computer lags with the > newer webmail interfaces. Well, todays browsers are huge, I'd expect any webmail interface to feel sluggish. Same goes for T

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Teodoro Santoni
2015-12-14 21:57 GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo : >The remaining problem is, how do > I quote other email threads? Hey there, Your problem is broad inside my brain, and the answer is mostly "copy and paste". If you need to quote multiple emails inside a reply, you should copy and paste. On Gmail, ope

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Fernando M. Maresca
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:46:19PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my > computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. I tried claws-mail > without su

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Edward Bartolo
On 14/12/2015, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Actually you *can* quote previous replies with gmail classic (and > javascriptnightmare gmail too): click on "reply to all" and use the > form, avoid the rapid reply dumbery. Hi Teodoro, Thanks for this tip. I tried icedove (aka Thunderbird) but was immedi

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Teodoro Santoni
2015-12-14 20:46 GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo : > Hi All, > > What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my > computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. Hi, I mostly use mutt. Just push r and you can an

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Ron
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:02:49 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > And an advantage of mutt is that it does *not* automatically open html or > other non-plain-text files on you/ Neither does Claws-Mail, unless you have added the respective add-ons. Cheers, Ron. -- Sex without love i

[DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread info at smallinnovations.nl
On 14-12-15 20:51, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Hi All, What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. I tried claws-mail without success: the gmail serv

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 01:58:52PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2015 14 Dec 13:48 -0600, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > > quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my > > computer lags wit

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 14 Dec 13:48 -0600, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly > quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my > computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. I tried claws-mail > without success: the g

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Rowland Penny
On 14/12/15 19:46, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi All, What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly quote previous replies? Thunderbird, it is what I use. Rowland ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/c

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 05:43:51PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Steve Litt writes: > > [...] > > > GIT is everywhere, now. I need to stop being that guy who looks up a > > few commands and dabbles with GIT, and start being a GIT expert. > > My personal theory on that is "university education

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 07:53:17AM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > On 13 Dec 2015 Aitor wrote: > Creating a 'netman.desktop' file in '/etc/xdg/autostart' directory, > netman will start automatically. > > I am thinking about making autostarting and connecting automatically > to wifi optiona

[DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

2015-12-14 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi All, What email client do you suggest me to use so that I can properly quote previous replies? I use gmail's classic webmail interface as my computer lags with the newer webmail interfaces. I tried claws-mail without success: the gmail server refused to connect. I also do not wish to use a paid

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:33:17 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Actually it takes more effort to *every* reader to read it > than it would take to the *single* writer to bottom-post. The preceding is the crux of the situation. SteveT Steve Litt November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:33:17 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Actually it takes more effort to *every* reader to read it > than it would take to the *single* writer to bottom-post. The preceding is the crux of the situation. SteveT Steve Litt November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques

Re: [DNG] Pointer error in the backend of Netman

2015-12-14 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:28:15 + > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> *p = 5 >> >> is undefined behaviour. > > Not in the good old days. Anyone remember DOS' infamous B800 address? 'undefined behaviour' is a term from the C standard and 'using the value of an object with automat

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Edward, On 14/12/15 17:10, Edward Bartolo wrote: I am thinking about making autostarting and connecting automatically >to wifi optional during the installation process of netman. This >means, I need to write a post installation script or if its already >exists, add a few lines to it, so tha

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread aitor_czr
On 14/12/15 17:10, Edward Bartolo wrote: I am thinking about making autostarting and connecting automatically >to wifi optional during the installation process of netman. This >means, I need to write a post installation script or if its already >exists, add a few lines to it, so that users can c

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 12/14/15, Timo Buhrmester wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman. To: "Edward Bartolo" Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, December 14, 2015, 6:02 AM >> As I use gmail's old webmail interface > I'm sorry to hear it. >> I would appreciate as to how to

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Edward, On 14/12/15 13:00, Edward Bartolo wrote: I am thinking about making autostarting and connecting automatically to wifi optional during the installation process of netman. This means, I need to write a post installation script or if its already exists, add a few lines to it, so that us

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:00:35PM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: [cut] > > >Hence top-post, should be replaced by no citation at all. And > >when citation is usefull, please use bottom-post. > > I do. And I think Katolaz is disingenious and intellecually lazy in > his arguments against top

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 14/12/2015 13:00, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : Didier Kryn writes: Le 13/12/2015 19:26, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : 2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when based on the subject Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't expect the reader to need the ci

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Timo Buhrmester writes: The convention is to prefix the quoted part with >. Sensible MUAs will identify that as a quote and make it stand out appropriately. It's about as easy to do with gmail as with mutt. Click the "..." near the bottom of the compose area (or hit down-arrow and then enter)

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Timo Buhrmester
> As I use gmail's old webmail interface I'm sorry to hear it. > I would appreciate as to how to properly quote previous mails so > that the format is standard. The convention is to prefix the quoted part with >. Sensible MUAs will identify that as a quote and make it stand out appropriately. ___

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Didier Kryn writes: Le 13/12/2015 19:26, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : 2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when based on the subject Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't expect the reader to need the citation. This means that the citation is left onl

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Ron
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:13:20 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > > 2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when based on > > the subject > > Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't expect the > reader to need the citation. This means that the citation is left o

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 13/12/2015 19:26, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : 2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when based on the subject Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't expect the reader to need the citation. This means that the citation is left only because the author

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-14 Thread shraptor
caveman, simply bother to *manually* delete the unrelated content every single time I reply to an email, and to quote only those bits that I consider necessary to set the context. I have no problem trying this out. I believe there it is also a question of what the mind is used to. For me it