Re: [DNG] top posting,? was: Re: Debianising my

2015-12-12 Thread Didier Kryn
I think bottom posting is easier to understand when the thread is long. My impression is that top posting means "don't care of the citation; the subject suffices and the citation is there because I was too lazy to delete it." Just an impression, not a strong opinion. Didier __

Re: [DNG] alternative to raspbian without systemd

2015-12-12 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 12/12/2015 23:51, Gregory Nowak a écrit : Thanks for confirming that all it takes to do second stage is in fact a kernel which matches the arch. This is exactly my point. I did this only once, ~10 years ago and this is how I bootstrapped my first install of Linux on an embedded Po

Re: [DNG] top posting,? was: Re: Debianising my

2015-12-12 Thread greg
On 2015-12-12 23:10, Gregory Nowak wrote: > I am however not > aware of any screen reader which has the ability to skip the speaking > of a line of text based on what characters are at the beginning of a > line. Actually, I have to take that back. I checked, and window-eyes does in fact have this

[DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage

2015-12-12 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Edward, Where is your repository? Aitor. El 12/12/15 22:24, Edward Bartolo escribió: Hi All, Running dpkg-buildpackage under netman now works everything without necessitating a manual invokation of "make -C . clean". However netman/debian directory is cluttered with many unnecessary fil

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread shraptor
I must admit I am really clueless to what is considered good practice in mailing-lists. I started coding on abc-80 but I only really know bulletin board style interaction(same as git, right?) or personal email. Not everybody was there at the start. I am lost in mailing-lists but feel like I hav

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:07:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > this sounds strange. since its very inception we have struggled to keep > Dyne.org infrastructure and practices as friendly as possible for people > with low or even no vision, since some of our funding members had such > conditions. Thank

Re: [DNG] alternative to raspbian without systemd

2015-12-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 09:24:44AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Maybe I missed something - I don't understand why your kernel > was not able to mount the root fs. I think it was able to mount the root fs. From what I recall, it did say mounted ext4 file system on /dev/mmcblk0p2. Also, from what

Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:58:03PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they > are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little > contribution to the project. Thank you. Is it likely to go onto jessie? Or j

[DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-12 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little contribution to the project. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cg

[DNG] netman building using dpkg-buildpackage

2015-12-12 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi All, Running dpkg-buildpackage under netman now works everything without necessitating a manual invokation of "make -C . clean". However netman/debian directory is cluttered with many unnecessary files that dh_make created. I tested the created .deb netman packages in another installation and n

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi All, On gmail threads text is automatically quoted: I have no option about that, other than selectively quoting parts. I always make an effort to write clearly, but more often than not, I am exhausted. I am making a huge effort to complete netman, notwithstanding I never earned a penny working

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Jaromil writes: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> I have to throw in my $0.01 here. First, like Edward, I too prefer top >> posting. I have noticed also that top posting seems to be an >> overwhelming convention on blindness-related lists. I have seen >> instances of bottom posters ge

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Mitt Green
>> Maybe the VUA's aren't the ones doing the top-posting, and maybe they >> are tired of the issue, which comes up over and over again on the web >> without much effect. >> Short of moderating the list and rejecting every message that top-posts, >> I see no hope of stamping it out. But the moder

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Daniel Reurich
> > Short of moderating the list and rejecting every message that top-posts, > I see no hope of stamping it out. But the moderation overhead would > take valuale manpower, and would likely slow down important discussions. > > I rarely top-post, even when replying to deeply-nested top-posted

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:40:08AM +0100, Rainer H. Rauschenberg wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > > This suggests that another 'default behaviour' is "client can't do > > threading based on References" > > I think this is (together with non-text-only-mails) the main reas

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Gregory Nowak wrote: > I have to throw in my $0.01 here. First, like Edward, I too prefer top > posting. I have noticed also that top posting seems to be an > overwhelming convention on blindness-related lists. I have seen > instances of bottom posters getting flamed on a blin

Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

2015-12-12 Thread Rainer H. Rauschenberg
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > This suggests that another 'default behaviour' is "client can't do > threading based on References" I think this is (together with non-text-only-mails) the main reason also for sensible people to top-post and fully quote in typical Outlook-/Exchan

Re: [DNG] alternative to raspbian without systemd

2015-12-12 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 12/12/2015 05:30, Gregory Nowak a écrit : I attempted to then boot from this sd card on the rpi. I got as far as initialized random pool, and waiting for root fs. This could be for a couple of reasons. First, I forgot I was trying to boot into a system which was unpacked, but hadn't been set