Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 05/10/2015 19:48, Hendrik Boom a écrit : From the man page for lpr, I get the impression that lpr is part of CUPS. Is that really correct? Wasn't there an lpr command long ago that wasn't part of CUPS? It seems I remember using something like it in the days of Unix in the 1970's. Hey

Re: [DNG] os-prober detects Devuan as "Unknown Linux Distribution"

2015-10-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:59:20AM +0100, David Hare wrote: > On 05/10/15 22:25, Adam Borowski wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 08:19:10PM +0100, David Hare wrote: > >>Don't know if there is an "official" plan to sort this. It is an annoyance > >>that os-prober (normally run at update-grub) detect

Re: [DNG] os-prober detects Devuan as "Unknown Linux Distribution"

2015-10-05 Thread David Hare
On 05/10/15 22:25, Adam Borowski wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 08:19:10PM +0100, David Hare wrote: Don't know if there is an "official" plan to sort this. It is an annoyance that os-prober (normally run at update-grub) detects my (bootstrap-installed) Devuan as "Unknown Linux Distribution" then

[DNG] Alternative for ARM processors

2015-10-05 Thread hal
I recently upgraded one my ARM devices and it appears to have incorporated systemd into the updates. Anyone know of a systemD-less ARM distro? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] os-prober detects Devuan as "Unknown Linux Distribution"

2015-10-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 08:19:10PM +0100, David Hare wrote: > Don't know if there is an "official" plan to sort this. It is an annoyance > that os-prober (normally run at update-grub) detects my > (bootstrap-installed) Devuan as "Unknown Linux Distribution" then that's > what you get in grub menu.

Re: [DNG] live-build

2015-10-05 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi Dragon True! :) Cheers Ozi On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Dragan FOSS wrote: > Hi Ozi > If I may suggest..it is useful to keep all lb logs with: > > lb build | tee "Build - $(date "+%d.%m.%Y - %H:%M").log" > > Cheers, > Dragan > ___ Dng mailing l

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 09:47:02PM +0200, Riccardo Boninsegna wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I installed lpr, and it did take a lot of cups off. Do I really need cups? > > Nope, especially with a Brother that's very LPR-friendly! > As you found out, cups-bsd is

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 11:52:05 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I recall a long and spirited discussiio here a while ago about how > easy and simple it is to do printing, and that CUPS is a bloated > incomprehensible system that just makes it all complicated, I decided > test this by setting up my dev

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?,Message-ID:

2015-10-05 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:34 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > Updated *.deb packages of netman. A little nitpick: the Description: of those packages is formally incorrect -- it should be an one-line short description followed by a multiline one (indented with one space, and with a single dot for blank lines

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-05 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, I removed the icon and used text instead. It is important to note that normal users who have only one wifi card and one ethernet connector do not absolutely need to use that option, as it doesn't make sense to talk about default devices where there is no choice other than the one device provi

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I installed lpr, and it did take a lot of cups off. Do I really need cups? Nope, especially with a Brother that's very LPR-friendly! As you found out, cups-bsd is just a port of LPR programs to CUPS. > But I still don't know how to specify m

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?,Message-ID:

2015-10-05 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi Aitor, Thanks for providing these netman packages. Edward On 05/10/2015, aitor_czr wrote: > Updated *.deb packages of netman. > > deb http://packages.gnuinos.org/devuan/ jessie main > deb-src http://packages.gnuinos.org/devuan/ jessie main > > Aitor. > > El 30/09/15 a las 17:40, Edward Barto

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?,Message-ID:

2015-10-05 Thread aitor_czr
Updated *.deb packages of netman. deb http://packages.gnuinos.org/devuan/ jessie main deb-src http://packages.gnuinos.org/devuan/ jessie main Aitor. El 30/09/15 a las 17:40, Edward Bartolo escribió: I implemented optional use of a systray icon. Use the --no-tray-icon parameter. I will test an

Re: [DNG] live-build

2015-10-05 Thread Dragan FOSS
Hi Ozi If I may suggest..it is useful to keep all lb logs with: lb build | tee "Build - $(date "+%d.%m.%Y - %H:%M").log" Cheers, Dragan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] os-prober detects Devuan as "Unknown Linux Distribution"

2015-10-05 Thread David Hare
Don't know if there is an "official" plan to sort this. It is an annoyance that os-prober (normally run at update-grub) detects my (bootstrap-installed) Devuan as "Unknown Linux Distribution" then that's what you get in grub menu. This is fixed here by adding after line 23 of /usr/lib/os-prob

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 07:36:35PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > On 05/10/15 19:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 06:54:53PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > >>On 05/10/15 18:48, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >>>I made the /var/spool/lpd directory manually, since a search of Debian > >>>packa

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Rowland Penny
On 05/10/15 19:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 06:54:53PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: On 05/10/15 18:48, Hendrik Boom wrote: I made the /var/spool/lpd directory manually, since a search of Debian packages didn't find any package that includes it as part of its infrastructure. I

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 06:54:53PM +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > On 05/10/15 18:48, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >I made the /var/spool/lpd directory manually, since a search of Debian > >packages didn't find any package that includes it as part of its > >infrastructure. > > I think you will find it is f

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Rowland Penny
On 05/10/15 18:48, Hendrik Boom wrote: I made the /var/spool/lpd directory manually, since a search of Debian packages didn't find any package that includes it as part of its infrastructure. I think you will find it is from the 'lpr' package Rowland I still think that something's missing,

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
I made the /var/spool/lpd directory manually, since a search of Debian packages didn't find any package that includes it as part of its infrastructure. I still think that something's missing, (possibly something that puts files into this spool queue) but now the package hl3170cdwlpr-1.1.2-1.i

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming

2015-10-05 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Rainer Weikusat" > Didier Kryn writes: >> Ethernet interfaces are maybe the only issue, which explains why >> distros have implemented a solution by the means of udev rules. The >> way it is implemented is secure: every new ethernet device is given a >>

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming

2015-10-05 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 03/10/2015 09:49, Simon Hobson a écrit : >> Lets face it - there is no "right" answer to this other than a system >> with enough intelligence to read the user/admin's mind and work out >> what they intend to happen - and I think we're a bit off that yet ! >> Looking back,

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 06:02:30PM +0200, Riccardo Boninsegna wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Obtaining a driver from Brother's support site as a .deb file, I tried to > > install it with dpkg: > > > > root@notlookedfor:/home/hendrik/Download/BrotherPrinterDriver#

Re: [DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Obtaining a driver from Brother's support site as a .deb file, I tried to > install it with dpkg: > > root@notlookedfor:/home/hendrik/Download/BrotherPrinterDriver# dpkg -i > hl3170cdwlpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb As the name says, that's an LPR drive

[DNG] Printing

2015-10-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
I recall a long and spirited discussiio here a while ago about how easy and simple it is to do printing, and that CUPS is a bloated incomprehensible system that just makes it all complicated, I decided test this by setting up my devuan system to talk to my networked printer. With or without CU

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-05 Thread fsmithred
I can't tell from the pictures exactly what the flow is from one window to another, but if it works out such that you can select the interface from a list and have it auto-fill the interface name in the window that asks for it, then you'll have one-up on wicd, which makes you type the interface nam

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming

2015-10-05 Thread Ron
On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 12:28:44 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > As was remarked already, disks are no longer a problem since > partitions are uniquely identified, so that nobody cares of a random > device name. Some do, when they issue a df command, and the result is a mess of unidentifiable UU

Re: [DNG] Purpose of an OS: was network device naming

2015-10-05 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 03/10/2015 09:49, Simon Hobson a écrit : Lets face it - there is no "right" answer to this other than a system with enough intelligence to read the user/admin's mind and work out what they intend to happen - and I think we're a bit off that yet ! Looking back, I think I've "moved" something