Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:35 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > > On 08/09/2015 08:14 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote: > >> Hello, >> I'm looking for a Linux distro that I could recommend to friends who are >> rather frustrated with Windows 10. >> The friends in question ask me about how to fix problems with the

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

Le 10/08/2015 03:14, Isaac Dunham a écrit : The essentials would be: -has a*good* Windows migration assistant, which must be able to handle Windows 10; I know that Ubuntu used to have this. -glibc-based, so that Flash and Avast Workstation will work (at least one of the friends in question u

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

On 08/09/2015 06:47 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: Doesn't that machine hae teh processor for which Microsoft said that all its Windowses would be totally locked down? Or have things changed for Windows 10? Hello, Hendrik! Assuming you mean "safe boot", that is only mandated for devices specif

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

Isaac Dunham wrote: > LXDE is close to the classic interface, but so is IceWM (my own first > pick for window manager.) I like IceWM, because it's so easy to configure menus. I set up some menus for my dad, that he's been using unchanged for a decade. The biggest problem was setting a larger cur

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 09:44:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:14:10 -0700 > Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > Hello, > > I'm looking for a Linux distro that I could recommend to friends who > > are rather frustrated with Windows 10. > > The friends in question ask me about how to fi

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

On 08/09/2015 08:14 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote: Hello, I'm looking for a Linux distro that I could recommend to friends who are rather frustrated with Windows 10. The friends in question ask me about how to fix problems with their computers from time to time. With the greatest respect, Isaac, by my

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

Morning Isaac, Hello, > I'm looking for a Linux distro that I could recommend to friends who are > ​ > rather frustrated with Windows 10. > The friends in question ask me about how to fix problems with their > ​ > computers from time to time. > > The essentials would be: > -has a *good* Windows mi

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:14:10 -0700 Isaac Dunham wrote: > Hello, > I'm looking for a Linux distro that I could recommend to friends who > are rather frustrated with Windows 10. > The friends in question ask me about how to fix problems with their > computers from time to time. > > The essentials w

[DNG] Packaging (was Systemd Shimss, Init scripts in packages, possibly Mission Creep)

I know I have said this before, but I just wanted to say that both threads are really the same issue. I think the overarching problem that both Debian and Devuan have is the very same problem: packaging. From my little corner of the world, every disagreement so far seems to be a package proble

Re: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

The best maintained are Slackware, CRUX, Funtoo, and AntiX. -Jim From: Isaac Dunham Sent: ‎8/‎9/‎2015 6:14 PM To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: [DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool? Hello,

[DNG] non-systemd Linux for newbies with good migration tool?

Hello, I'm looking for a Linux distro that I could recommend to friends who are rather frustrated with Windows 10. The friends in question ask me about how to fix problems with their computers from time to time. The essentials would be: -has a *good* Windows migration assistant, which must be able

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 07:47:39PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:16:51PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > > > Since > > > I'm a fan of the Raspberry Pi, I definitely want to see another distro > > > available

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:16:51PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > > Since > > I'm a fan of the Raspberry Pi, I definitely want to see another distro > > available for it that is systemd-free. There is also FreeBSD for the Pi, > > thoug

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 07:42:04AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 22:44:41 +1200 > Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > Devuan may have been born out of anger at the decisions of the TC, but > > already it is shaping up to be more then just Debian with sysvinit. > > Vdev is certainly

Re: [DNG] Init scripts in packages

On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 02:38:48AM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > You could always lift scripts from Wheezy and use them as a template. Or even from jessie, now that Debian jessie in stable. -- hendrik > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Miles Fidelman > wrote: > > > T.J. Duchene wrote: > > > >

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

Patrick Erdmann writes: > On 09.08.2015 12:02, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Mark S Bilk writes: >>> It seems to me that it's good to have shim programs that satisfy >>> dependencies of apps on systemd, each shim performing some systemd >>> function. Here's why: >>> >>> Suppose there are 10,000 ap

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

On 09.08.2015 12:02, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Mark S Bilk writes: >> It seems to me that it's good to have shim programs that satisfy >> dependencies of apps on systemd, each shim performing some systemd >> function. Here's why: >> >> Suppose there are 10,000 application programs (apps) for Lin

Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims

Mark S Bilk writes: > It seems to me that it's good to have shim programs that satisfy > dependencies of apps on systemd, each shim performing some systemd > function. Here's why: > > Suppose there are 10,000 application programs (apps) for Linux, > and their developers foolishly insert depende