Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > To: Steve Litt > > I was angry because my apology was not accepted. Thanks for replying > in a respectful way. I probably shouldn't be writing this but "you do realize that referring to other people as 'monsters' isn't exactly a good way to make them respect you, do you?"

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 02:34:52PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > I was of the impression, that to modify the kernel, a PhD was a must. Where did you get such an impression? The only things you need to modify the kernel are the ability to program in c, a sufficient understanding of kernel internal

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Edward Bartolo
To: Steve Litt I was angry because my apology was not accepted. Thanks for replying in a respectful way. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:23:30PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200 > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here > > want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right > > to use it, nor to use kd

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here > want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right > to use it, nor to use kdbus. Devuan was created out of a dislike of systemd. When you say "Peop

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 11:27:52AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > Interesting! You are right! I misread a comma as a semicolon. > > I never thought of using commas this way. Now I get to wonder whether > this way of eliminating brackets is clarifying or misleading. It > misled me.

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Edward Bartolo
Quote: "JFTR: I was adressing the person who wrote the original mail (to come up with something with more substance)." I begged you pardon. What are you, a monster without feelings?! At least, be decent to accept my apology. Edward. On 03/08/2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 03:32:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Hendrik Boom writes: > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > > >> > >> [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I > >> happen to disgree with what he wrote on the t

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 03/08/2015 14:14, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> So, if you're (addressed to anyone) opposed to kdbus then please find a >> better reason then "someone whom I'm a fan of once said ...". > > My point was: "The person who will decide to merge kdbus into the > kernel or not

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> >> [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I >> happen to disgree with what he wrote on the topic). The simplest way >> to implement a block memory copy in C is > > C

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 03/08/2015 14:14, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : So, if you're (addressed to anyone) opposed to kdbus then please find a better reason then "someone whom I'm a fan of once said ...". My point was: "The person who will decide to merge kdbus into the kernel or not is Linus Torwalds; therefore

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 09:41:32AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > > > > [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I > > happen to disgree with what he wrote on the topic). The simplest way > > t

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I > happen to disgree with what he wrote on the topic). The simplest way > to implement a block memory copy in C is Correction: > > static void

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Edward Bartolo
I was of the impression, that to modify the kernel, a PhD was a must. I cannot be blamed for this impression, as I am an EU citizen, which has been agressively pushing for more qualifications of its work force. The extent of this drive, is that anybody who holds no qualificatios, is paid a misery c

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 03/08/2015 12:03, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> Edward Bartolo writes: >>> I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to >>> rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding >>> this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 03/08/2015 12:03, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Edward Bartolo writes: I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as the kernel is usually reserved for

Re: [DNG] Unmingling kdbus and the Linux kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to > rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding > this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as the kernel is usually > reserved for highly qualified and highly skilled coders