Re: [DNG] Keeping mailing list alive - A question about error on re-compiling package

2015-08-01 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 02:12:54PM +0200, Anto wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I don't usually get answers on this kind of basic questions, so I post it to > keep the mailing list alive. > > I am trying to re-compile a package that I took from Debian sid. And I got > the following error. See www.c

Re: [DNG] Keeping mailing list alive - A question about error on re-compiling package

2015-08-01 Thread Timo
> so I post it to keep the mailing list alive. Odd. Normally people email mailing lists in order to get answers. Since that wasn't your goal, let me disregard the rest of your mail and just express my gratitude for caring about the list itself. Thanks! Timo

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015 05:13:46 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > If I wanted my users to use sudo, I would install them *ubuntu... :-) Wait a minute. You can't do that. * If I wanted my children to breath, I'd give them oxygen tanks. * If I wanted to spend my money, I'd buy a Testerosa. :-)

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:59:31 +0200 tilt! wrote: > Hi Jaromil! > > Jaromil wrote on 29/07/2015 at 19:44 CEST: > > [...] > > how I do it now? hardcode every single binary > > that sudo is aloud to execute, full path > > and locations that are only root writable. > > that's a sudoers feature... >

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > Another reason not to give users wholesale access to the mount > command is that they could then 'mount -o remount,rw' any filesystem > that the administrator has mounted read-only. To protect against > this, I think you probably need s

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/07/2015 11:28, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Didier Kryn writes: Le 29/07/2015 16:35, a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no a écrit : Every last problem of sudo is taken seriously? Did you know that if someone has limited access, e.g. the right to install standard packages, then it is easy to leverage th

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 01/08/2015 17:49, Isaac Dunham a écrit : Alternately, you could write a wrapper that*always* mounts under /media, and doesn't accept -t; it just takes a device name, creates an equivalent name under /media, checks type and whether ntfs-3g is installed, and passes a suitable type to mount (or

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:47:29AM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > A daemon process should only exist because it provides some important > functionality with a real benefit for users of the system which cannot > (reasonably) be provided in some other way, eg, by starting a program to > perform a

Re: [DNG] xargs guide

2015-08-01 Thread Joel Roth
Steve Litt wrote: > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/xargs.htm Funny, that I used xargs so many years without ever looking at the man page. Thanks for publishing these examples! -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://maili

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 07:12:05AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Someone mentioned that we have too many daemons and this shouldn't be > one. If you want the thing to be *auto*mount instead of just "mount > when I tell you to, or "search for possible mounts and tell me about > them", it has to be a ba

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Laurent Bercot writes: > On 31/07/2015 11:47, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> >> [example of a completely useless daemon process] >> >> But that's not a good reason for it being installed and running: A >> daemon process should only exist because it provides some important >> functionality with a real b

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 08:49:55AM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Isaac, your comment suggests me two questions: > > One: is it really possible to mount a Fuse filesystem with 'mount' ? I > > thought it could only be done with '

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:28:30AM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Didier Kryn writes: > > Le 29/07/2015 16:35, a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no a écrit : > >> Every last problem of sudo is taken seriously? Did you know that if > >> someone has limited access, e.g. the right to install standard > >> packa

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 30/07/2015 01:09, Isaac Dunham a écrit : > >I'm not sure where in the discussion this fits, but I thought I'd mention > >it here: > >Permitting all mount invocations via sudo does have a potential security > >hole if your mount imple

[DNG] Keeping mailing list alive - A question about error on re-compiling package

2015-08-01 Thread Anto
Hello everybody, I don't usually get answers on this kind of basic questions, so I post it to keep the mailing list alive. I am trying to re-compile a package that I took from Debian sid. And I got the following error. dh common-install-prehook-arch --parallel --with autotools-dev --with a

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread poitr pogo
IMHO automount for desktop is a helper for a user running some X session. Usually that means that a single person is using this system. So make him a helper which can do automount/autorun etc which helps him on a daily basis. Helps him not the admin of the system. A simple one which is a helper, n

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Ron
If I wanted my users to use sudo, I would install them *ubuntu... Cheers, Ron. -- Schroedinger thought inside the box. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ Dng ma

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 31/07/2015 11:47, Rainer Weikusat wrote: But that's not a good reason for it being installed and running: A daemon process should only exist because it provides some important functionality with a real benefit for users of the system which cannot (reasonably) be provided in some other way N

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/07/2015 01:30, Laurent Bercot a écrit : I think most people wouldn't mind a pandemonium on their machine IF they knew exactly what daemon is doing what, how many resources a daemon consumes, and how to disable the ones they don't need. Yes, it is mostly a question of book-keeping, a

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread pp
If I was about to make a friendly for me Desktop, I would provide a system service/library/daemon/whatever, where every application while installing on the system could register (during installation) a set of commands to be executed later with root privileges. And later ask for execution of those

[DNG] Is Live-Build going to be in Devuan?

2015-08-01 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi I've very interested to create to use Devuan as a base for my distro. So I'm wonder whether live-build is also coming across from Debian? Cheers Ozi ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:44:44 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > I mean: what would you suggest using for the > "check a FIFO" bit you mention? > pcre? perhaps very clean simple code? > most code out there has too many features > and is too ambitions to fulfill such a simple task The first word is parsed to

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/07/2015 01:09, Isaac Dunham a écrit : On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:40:33AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: I don't understand the preventions against sudo. It is just up to the administrator to take care, like for everything. Wether execution of the command is allowed by sudo, by a setu

Re: [DNG] xargs guide

2015-08-01 Thread John Crisp
On 30/07/15 03:34, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > xargs is a gender-changer type program that adapts one program's stdout > to the next program's command line arguments. It's extremely handy for > shell scripting, but it can be tricky. I've written a short guide for > xargs that shows how to get

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 29/07/2015 16:35, a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no a écrit : >> Every last problem of sudo is taken seriously? Did you know that if >> someone has limited access, e.g. the right to install standard >> packages, then it is easy to leverage that to get complete >> access. Various pa

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread tilt!
Hi Jaromil! Jaromil wrote on 29/07/2015 at 19:44 CEST: [...] how I do it now? hardcode every single binary that sudo is aloud to execute, full path and locations that are only root writable. that's a sudoers feature... This is how I personally see it: In an ideal environment, there were *no* t

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Laurent Bercot writes: [...] >> I think I speak for most people here when I say we dislike >> the quantity of undocumented daemons running >> on on gnu/Linux desktop nowadays and >> I hope we can trim that down with Devuan > > The real sticking point in what you just wrote is "undocumented". >

[DNG] "/data" folder in Devuan Ascii

2015-08-01 Thread Riccardo Boninsegna
I had JUST used Android adb as superuser so I thought for some reason adb faithfully recreated the folder structure, but after seeing the contents of a mysterious /data/ folder appearing in my root, it quickly became clear any accidental human error isn't mine (not pointing fingers at anyone, let's

Re: [DNG] automount, mount, and USB sticks

2015-08-01 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Isaac Dunham" > I'm not sure where in the discussion this fits, but I thought I'd mention > it here: > Permitting all mount invocations via sudo does have a potential security > hole if your mount implementation supports FUSE, as you can run an arbitrary > com

[DNG] Test

2015-08-01 Thread Go Linux
This list has been dead for several days. Just checking . . . ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng