Re: [Dng] Purpose of systemd-shim

2015-04-15 Thread Anto
On 15/04/15 21:01, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 06:39:29PM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:22:28PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: systemd-shim is for when you *don't* want systemd. Yes, but cause of you have things that depend on components of systemd. We

Re: [Dng] Story: Debian Jessie laptop without systemd

2015-04-15 Thread Anto
On 15/04/15 18:39, Franco Lanza wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:22:28PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: systemd-shim is for when you *don't* want systemd. Yes, but cause of you have things that depend on components of systemd. We don't want systemd nor anything depending on components from sy

[Dng] Purpose of systemd-shim

2015-04-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 06:39:29PM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:22:28PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > > > systemd-shim is for when you *don't* want systemd. > > Yes, but cause of you have things that depend on components of systemd. > We don't want systemd nor any

Re: [Dng] Fwd: [dng] vdev status update

2015-04-15 Thread Anto
On 15/04/15 05:20, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Anto, Don't you want to know my setup? Yes, eventually :) Â However, I don't want to waste your time either, at least until I am more confident that the vdev installation process works correctly. Â Maybe there are some packages required b

Re: [Dng] Story: Debian Jessie laptop without systemd

2015-04-15 Thread Jaromil
thanks for the live images David On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, David Hare wrote: > On 15/04/15 17:39, Franco Lanza wrote: > > >systemd-shim is for who don't want to have systemd in pid 1 but > >accept other systemd components. We don't want systemd at all. > > +1. My /etc/apt/preferences.d/01systemd:

Re: [Dng] Story: Debian Jessie laptop without systemd

2015-04-15 Thread David Hare
On 15/04/15 17:39, Franco Lanza wrote: systemd-shim is for who don't want to have systemd in pid 1 but accept other systemd components. We don't want systemd at all. +1. My /etc/apt/preferences.d/01systemd: Package: *systemd* Pin: origin "" Pin-Priority: -1 Yes, that also excludes libsystemd

Re: [Dng] Story: Debian Jessie laptop without systemd

2015-04-15 Thread Franco Lanza
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:22:28PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > systemd-shim is for when you *don't* want systemd. Yes, but cause of you have things that depend on components of systemd. We don't want systemd nor anything depending on components from systemd, so, we don't want the shim to

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status update

2015-04-15 Thread Jaromil
cheers to vdev! On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: > >I'm using it as the device manager in my copy of the alpha Vagrant image, >and others have tested it locally (but not for booting, AFAIK).* I'm >working on getting it to boot the the qcow2 image, which boots from LVM. FYI an

Re: [Dng] Story: Debian Jessie laptop without systemd

2015-04-15 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 11-04-15 om 19:33 schreef Anto: > On 11/04/15 19:05, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> Op 10-04-15 om 19:14 schreef Anto: >> >>> Hello Paul, >>> >>> I understand your pain as I have been there. >>> >>> I managed to have everything working with Debian jessie without any >>> packages containing "*system