Re: [Dng] OT: Linux kernel and the force behind it

2015-02-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 01:58:59PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > I don't see what's the fuss about server-oriented vs desktop-oriented. > As long as it's not monolithic anyone can/should be able to install a Even monoliths can be tolerated if they do not exclude other ways of running the syst

Re: [Dng] KDE systemd lock-in

2015-02-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 20 Feb 11:56 -0600, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:59:33 -0800 > Go Linux wrote: > > > We all knew this was coming . . . > > > > KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months > > > > https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235 Following on here since

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread hellekin
On 02/21/15 13:40, Go Linux wrote: > > Urm . . . it's about more than just init and that needs to be conveyed in the > badge. > *** It says "if" :) https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/blob/devuan-alpha/graphics/init-freedom/if.png -- _ _ We are free to share code and we co

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 13:37:53 -0300 hellekin wrote: > > This makes the badge a source of pride rather than a retrograde > > step. > > > *** 100% agreed. > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/blob/devuan-alpha/graphics/init-freedom/if.png How bout this: http://www.a3b3.com/litt/badge

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread hellekin
On 02/21/15 13:35, Go Linux wrote: > > Modularity-preserved Linux > Linux your way > Lockin-freed Linux > *** Hmmm... It's about *init*, not the kernel :o) == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/21/15, David Harrison wrote: Subject: [Dng] Init Freedom badges To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, February 21, 2015, 6:14 AM On 21/02/2015 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to get > started at it: >> h

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread hellekin
On 02/21/15 09:14, David Harrison wrote: > > What about an Init Freedom Group? Freedom sounds more postitive to me > than 'free of', though it's seen some iffy use in recent years. > > This kind of thing work at two levels. 'Member/Supporter of', meaning > it's a goal or a sponsorship target, or

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/21/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] systemd free badge To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, February 21, 2015, 8:29 AM On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:08:04 +0100 Jaromil wrote: >> hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to >> get started at it: how ab

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:46:04 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:08:04AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > > hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if > > anyone likes to get started at it: how about designing a > > badge that all distros that are systemd free can show? > > >

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:08:04 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to > get started at it: how about designing a badge that all distros that > are systemd free can show? > > this is not strictly Devuan related, but will benefit people willing >

Re: [Dng] OT: Linux kernel and the force behind it

2015-02-21 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > As a home user of Debian running Xfce and also with a strong hobbyist > interest and advocate for Linux systems, I do not wish to be excluded by > Devuan and, at least for 1.0, that does not appear to be in the plan. +1 I don't see what's

Re: [Dng] KDE systemd lock-in

2015-02-21 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > They were > specialists in monolithic entanglement when Lennart was in diapers. i'd say any Behemoth DE does that and, like some else said, systemd doing it is just the latest (and most blatant) example of this. Cheers, Nuno __

[Dng] Xfce

2015-02-21 Thread David Harrison
On 21/02/2015 01:12, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: Definitely, I think we want to maintain a healthy relationship with the Xfce camp. They forked ConsoleKit (https://github.com/consolekit2/consolekit2) and enhanced it with some logind-like functionality. Saturday morning was a poor time to

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread hellekin
On 02/21/15 06:08, Jaromil wrote: > > how about designing a badge that all distros that are systemd free can show? > *** I think some kind of cross-distros work is good. Code sharing will be facilitated with good inter-distros communication. On the one hand, I understand the urge to polarize aga

[Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-21 Thread David Harrison
On 21/02/2015 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to get started at it: how about designing a badge that all distros that are systemd free can show? this is not strictly Devuan related, but will benefit people willing to un

Re: [Dng] LoginKit on the pre-alpha

2015-02-21 Thread Dima Krasner
I created a Jessie branch in LoginKit's repository. This branch does not have libsystemd*, just loginkitd (the daemon). I removed all functionality from it, except Inhibit(). It's a method implemented in logind and ConsoleKit2. Session managers and display managers call it. After some research,

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:08:04AM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if > anyone likes to get started at it: how about designing a > badge that all distros that are systemd free can show? > > this is not strictly Devuan related, but will benefit > people wi

Re: [Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread Neo Futur
I like the idea, I tought of trying to gather people around some kind of "rootslinux" foundation, to share efforts, ideas and coding, the badge could be part of this roots linux idea . . . anyone interested ? On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Jaromil wrote: > hello i just thought of sharing a sim

[Dng] systemd free badge

2015-02-21 Thread Jaromil
hello i just thought of sharing a simple idea see if anyone likes to get started at it: how about designing a badge that all distros that are systemd free can show? this is not strictly Devuan related, but will benefit people willing to understand such an important architectural aspect of a dist