Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-10 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Jaromil, Thank you for clarifying. I'm sorry if I'm asking questions too early ;) I'll give it another try when you feel like the SDK is ready. I like this workflow a lot, especially the ability to build ISOs (and presumably other bootable media). I look forward to using it to do integratio

[Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI

2015-02-10 Thread Noel Torres
# [Devuan Weekly News][current] Issue XI __Volume 02, Week 6, Devuan Week 11__ https://git.devuan.org/Envite/devuan-weekly-news/wikis/past-issues/volume-02/issue-011 ## Editorial From Devuan Weekly News we want to mourn the end of CrunchBang Linux. Talking about something else, it seems that t

[Dng] Kali Linux has systemd?

2015-02-10 Thread Ed Ender
On 2015-02-10 19:52, Wim wrote: >Hi, > > >Mark inquired about the source of my info on kali. I just saw kali on the >list at: > >http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation > >Decided to do some research. Apparently, systemd is a

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Gravis
that's not cross compiling, that's compiling on an emulator. cross compilers directly generate code for the target platform. "A cross compiler is a compiler capable of creating executable code for a platform other than the one on which the compiler is running. For example, a compiler that runs on

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Wim
Hi, Mark inquired about the source of my info on kali. I just saw kali on the list at: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation Decided to do some research. Apparently, systemd is already present in the latest kali 1.0.9:

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread mutek
Il 10/02/2015 10:30 Gravis ha scritto: to my knowledge, cross compilation has minimal overhead. while having native targets is good for testing, it won't have a significant impact on compile time. agreed, to my experience, cross compilation using qemu-arm-static in an armhf chroot inside an am

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Wim
Hi Robert and list, I've been reading this list since the beginning. Felt the need to reply to this, but it's only a "Me too!". The Raspberry foundation has stated already that they will adopt Jessie as-is, with systemd. Discussion of systemd on the forum is frowned upon. Most threads got closed

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Gravis
> It doesn't work on a majority of packages, as I understand (build scripts > that rely on running compiled code, that don't respect CC, and many other > causes.) oh that's dreadful. sounds like something that should be fixed and submitted upstream. --Gravis On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Is

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 04:30:30AM -0500, Gravis wrote: > to my knowledge, cross compilation has minimal overhead. while having > native targets is good for testing, it won't have a significant impact > on compile time. It doesn't work on a majority of packages, as I understand (build scripts tha

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 33

2015-02-10 Thread David Harrison
Thanks very much Gravis, Jaromil. I'll let the folk on #xroutine know. (And about Dowse -- looks interesting too). ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32

2015-02-10 Thread Gravis
banana pi uses the ARMv7 architecture which is the same architecture that raspberry pi 2 uses. you should be able to use the same software, as long as you have a working bootloader. however, you may have to recompile the kernel to include the drivers you need. --Gravis On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Gravis
> Will Rasvuan be backward compatible with the Raspberry A ? a) it's "Devuan" regardless if it's on a PC, a Mac or on a watch. b) Raspberry Pi uses the ARMv6 architecture while Raspberry Pi 2 uses ARMv7 architecture. what you are asking is effectively if something built for an i486 cpu will run o

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32

2015-02-10 Thread Jaromil
hi David, On Tue, 10 Feb 2015, David Harrison wrote: > Will this be compatible with the banana pi too? I'm very impressed > with mine since installing a SATA drive. Makes for a great mini > server. The current default distro, bananian, is a little flakey. > Some fellow users were excited at the

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32

2015-02-10 Thread David Harrison
Will this be compatible with the banana pi too? I'm very impressed with mine since installing a SATA drive. Makes for a great mini server. The current default distro, bananian, is a little flakey. Some fellow users were excited at the notion of Devuan for their systems too. It's based on the Al

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Ron
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:30:29 -0500 Gravis wrote: > i'm actually getting a couple of Pi 2 boards to use as thin clients. > be assured, ARMv7 packages will be made. Will Rasvuan be backward compatible with the Raspberry A ? Cheers, Ron. -- Somewhere, just out of sight,

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Gravis
to my knowledge, cross compilation has minimal overhead. while having native targets is good for testing, it won't have a significant impact on compile time. --Gravis On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 10 Feb 2015, Gravis wrote: >> be assured, ARMv7 packages will be made

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015, Gravis wrote: > be assured, ARMv7 packages will be made. I can't resist but spoiling the news that Nextime has bought two rather big ARM machines to compile our packages natively on those :^) being put in rackspaces as we speak. Hack on! -- Jaromil, Dyne.org Free Software Fo

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-10 Thread Jaromil
hi, On Mon, 09 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: >To clarify, the SDK will pull a package from Debian, and create a new >branch for each version so maintainers can observe and deal with the >changes? yes. >If so, then the maintainers (not Jenkins) will be pulling from >Debian or

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Jaromil
hi Robert, On Tue, 10 Feb 2015, Robert Storey wrote: >I just saw this announcement: Raspberry Pi 2 Now on Sale for US$35 >[1]http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/ > >Anyway, it's got an ARM7 processor, so at last there is a Pi that >is fast enough to use as a real co

Re: [Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Gravis
> It will probably be a few months before I can buy one in my part of the world > (Taiwan) now that is irony. i'm actually getting a couple of Pi 2 boards to use as thin clients. be assured, ARMv7 packages will be made. --Gravis On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Robert Storey wrote: > I just s

[Dng] Raspberry Pi 2

2015-02-10 Thread Robert Storey
I just saw this announcement: Raspberry Pi 2 Now on Sale for US$35 http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/ It will probably be a few months before I can buy one in my part of the world (Taiwan), but it's on my shopping list. Maybe for my birthday (in May). Anyway, it's got an ARM7 pro