[Dng] X GUI

2015-02-04 Thread william moss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I am currently using XFCE on both Linux and FreeBSD. If it runs on BSD, then it cannot have systemd dependencies or the developers of FreeBSD have added library calls to compensate. I see no shame in checking out what BSD has done. Perhaps they can a

[Dng] [OT] ISIL (was Re: What's new in Systemd)

2015-02-04 Thread hellekin
On 02/04/2015 03:03 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Is not ISIL a better analogy? > > But not the analogy I was driving at. The Taliban is a movement that > started focused on Afghanistan - a revolutionary movement. ISIL's > mission is to (re)establish an Islamic Caliphate over a broad swatch of

Re: [Dng] What's new in Systemd

2015-02-04 Thread T.J. Duchene
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:57 +, BRM wrote: > > > FYI - as a KDE user I've paid attention to KDE and systemd where I > can. > KDE goes far beyond Linux, so for them to only support systemd would > be foolish. > And they are certainly not only supporting systemd. I am also a KDE user also.

Re: [Dng] Enlightenment

2015-02-04 Thread John Holland
For what it's worth jessie has e18. But I'm happy to see my packages used. I don't know if the jessie e18 has any dependencies that lead to systemd. On February 4, 2015 5:50:56 PM EST, Robert Storey wrote: >> I've been lurking on the list for a bit, this seemed like a good time >> to mention I

[Dng] Enlightenment

2015-02-04 Thread Robert Storey
> I've been lurking on the list for a bit, this seemed like a good time > to mention I have a repo with .debs for enlightenment 19 for jessie at > www.vin-dit.org . I built and tested them on vm's with systemd removed. > I think they will work without any systemd (at least w

Re: [Dng] What's new in Systemd

2015-02-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 02:22:58PM -0300, hellekin wrote: > On 02/02/2015 12:37 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:22:45 -0500 > > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > >>> Only remains to prove the talibans of systemd that resistance is not > >>> futile... > > > >> Is not ISIL a

Re: [Dng] What's new in Systemd

2015-02-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 03 Feb 03:22 -0600, Svante Signell wrote: > On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 16:54 -0600, t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, February 02, 2015 07:57:23 PM Vlad wrote: > ... > > I think that uselessd or FreeBSD's compatibility projects are probably the > > most likely solutions. > > What a

Re: [Dng] What's new in Systemd

2015-02-04 Thread Ron
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:22:58 -0300 hellekin wrote: > Let me help you. After all, I'm a free software talib. (see my twitter) I stand reproved, and thank you for enlightening me. Cheers, Ron. -- We are all born for love. It is the principle of existenc

Re: [Dng] What's new in Systemd

2015-02-04 Thread hellekin
On 02/02/2015 12:37 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:22:45 -0500 > Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>> Only remains to prove the talibans of systemd that resistance is not >>> futile... > >> Is not ISIL a better analogy? > > Grovelling apologies, but I have difficulties disting

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-04 Thread Nikolaus Klepp
Am Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2015 schrieb Gravis: > Neo Futur, > why don't the TDE people just submit their packages to Debian? > --Gravis AFAIK debian decided that KDE4 is best for their users and to not support anything that's based on KDE3 including TDE. I remember that I had to use a simillar set

Re: [Dng] What's new in Systemd

2015-02-04 Thread BRM
On Monday, February 2, 2015 5:54 PM, "t.j.duch...@gmail.com" wrote: > On Monday, February 02, 2015 07:57:23 PM Vlad wrote: > > Hey Lennart if you dislike Devuan that much feel free to go back to > > freedesktop.org or whatever? > > > > You misunderstood what I meant.  I was in a hurry, and

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-04 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 21:47 -0500, John Holland wrote: > I've been lurking on the list for a bit, this seemed like a good time > to mention I have a repo with .debs for enlightenment 19 for jessie at > www.vin-dit.org. I built and tested them on vm's with systemd removed. > I think they will work w

Re: [Dng] Some downgrades may be needed e.g. cups Re: Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-04 Thread John Holland
I've been lurking on the list for a bit, this seemed like a good time to mention I have a repo with .debs for enlightenment 19 for jessie at www.vin-dit.org. I built and tested them on vm's with systemd removed. I think they will work without any systemd (at least without anything but what is left

Re: [Dng] Package Versions

2015-02-04 Thread tilt
Am 28.01.2015 um 00:19 schrieb tilt: > [...] > Right now I practise "+devuanX" re-versioning, so if I > encounter a hypothetical incoming package with name "xyz" > and version (in Jessie) "1.2.3-4" then my modified package > will still be called "xyz" and the version will be > "1.2.3-4+devuan1" (a