Re: [Dng] minimal init

2015-01-17 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:13:46PM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Someone mentioned [1]. > > So I tried busybox's init. It works great, my exp. config is at [2]. > > /// > > Also it would be possible to have a startup script (/etc/rcS) like: > > #!/bin/bash > > echo -n "Which init do you wan

Re: [Dng] Purpose of all this complicated device management?

2015-01-17 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 08:06:05PM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Gravis: > > karl, what's with the hostility? > > Oh, maybe it come out to harsh, sorry for that. > > > vdev is by no means required and > > nothing depends on it, so nobody is being forced to even install it. > > also, since it

[Dng] Wiki spam

2015-01-17 Thread Go Linux
Could one of the venerable VUAs please do something to stop the spam being posted to the wiki. It's starting to get out of control and no one seems to be minding the store. It needs to be PREVENTED not just deleted (which Gravis has been doing). Thanks, golinux __

[Dng] minimal init

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Someone mentioned [1]. So I tried busybox's init. It works great, my exp. config is at [2]. /// Also it would be possible to have a startup script (/etc/rcS) like: #!/bin/bash echo -n "Which init do you want to use? " read -t 5 a # bash's read has a timeout option if [ $? -gt 0 ] then echo t

Re: [Dng] Purpose of all this complicated device management?

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Jude: > Moreover, vdev will support the option of simply generating the device > files for the system's current hardware configuration and promptly > exiting. You won't have to leave it running, and if your hardware > configuration changes, you can simply re-run it and it will add/remove the > req

Re: [Dng] Purpose of all this complicated device management?

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Gravis: > karl, what's with the hostility? Oh, maybe it come out to harsh, sorry for that. > vdev is by no means required and > nothing depends on it, so nobody is being forced to even install it. > also, since it is based on FUSE, it won't actually add/remove static > device files, so when the

Re: [Dng] Purpose of all this complicated device management?

2015-01-17 Thread Jude Nelson
Moreover, vdev will support the option of simply generating the device files for the system's current hardware configuration and promptly exiting. You won't have to leave it running, and if your hardware configuration changes, you can simply re-run it and it will add/remove the requisite device no

Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Dragan: > From: "Martinx - ジェームズ" > >> If you know how to help us with the correct solution that > >> will immediately work correctly, you are very welcome to our > >> community. >   > > What about eudev?  >   > I don't know if eudev is successfully ported to debian to satisfy > all dependencies?

Re: [Dng] Purpose of all this complicated device management?

2015-01-17 Thread Gravis
karl, what's with the hostility? vdev is by no means required and nothing depends on it, so nobody is being forced to even install it. also, since it is based on FUSE, it won't actually add/remove static device files, so when the program exits, it will go back to your static device files. you can

Re: [Dng] What to do with udev? Some ideas...

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Isaac: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:29:15AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 03:03:50PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult > > wrote > > > On 31.12.2014 10:59, Jude Nelson wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > However, future entanglements with systemd and kdbus could ma

Re: [Dng] What to do with udev? Some ideas...

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Jude: > I haven't read the mesa code yet, but it sounds like mesa uses udev to help > it (1) insert the right kernel module, and (2) load the right firmware. > udev gets its information from sysfs and/or its netlink socket, so I'd > imagine mesa uses a similar technique with the --enable-sysfs opt

Re: [Dng] Purpose of all this complicated device management?

2015-01-17 Thread karl
t.j.duch...@gmail.com: > From: Hendrik Boom > Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎31‎, ‎2014 ‎8‎:‎44‎ ‎AM > > > Never mind the mechanisms for now. > > May I ask what all this complexity is supposed to accomplish? (please don't top post) > The reasons for a dynamic device manger were simple: > > a) Ac

Re: [Dng] Use/misuse of depends

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Katola2: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:59:55PM +0700, Ста Деюс wrote: > > Доброго времени суток, KatolaZ. > > > > Спасибо за ответ, Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:52:39 +, вы писали: > > > Well, unfortunately there is currently no clear-cut about > > > Recommends. In most of the cases a package will work