[Dng] Release roadmap

2015-01-03 Thread Franco Lanza
As many already known, i will be unreliable next week, and this will cause a little bit of slow down in the package repository population. Sorry for that, but my primary job is calling me for a week long trip i cannot postpone. Anyway, i want to let you know the roadmap i have for the release of

Re: [Dng] package submission

2015-01-03 Thread Franco Lanza
On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 07:06:19PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > > and for external hosted sources the devuan gitlab project > > will have just the debian directory and a devuan specific script similar > > to the "watch" script used in debian. > > I'd strongly suggest NOT doing

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

2015-01-03 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Aldemir, That sounds like a good idea--give the Linux port the option to exit once it processes all devices from sysfs. If run again by root manually, it will "patch" /dev by adding new nodes for new devices and remove nodes for devices no longer present. Is this what you had in mind? If so,

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

2015-01-03 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Enrico, > IMHO, chroot should be sufficient for that case - at least w/ proper > mounting. IIRC, running services in a chroot should be pretty standard > on *BSD. Anyways, are sure, OpenBSD really has no mount namespaces ? I'm pretty sure the standard practice in FreeBSD is to use jails instea

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

2015-01-03 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 2 January 2015 at 10:58, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I just thought I'd post an update on vdev, since I'd mentioned earlier > that I was shooting for packages by now. It will take a couple more days, > but I'm pleased to say that the pre-alpha vdev can do the following: > Snip > D

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

2015-01-03 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Hendrik, > It looks as if this whole discussion is in the direction of building a > capability architecture on top of Linux. I'm not sure this isn't a > much greater change than imposing systemd. If you want such a thing, > better to switch to an OS that does this natively, such as, perhaps,

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

2015-01-03 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 03.01.2015 07:27, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi, > I don't disagree with you, especially since namespacing will be > necessary when the same device node in each session must refer to a > different device. However, as I mentioned in an earlier email, solving > the problem of per-process access control

Re: [Dng] package submission

2015-01-03 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 03.01.2015 09:19, Franco Lanza wrote: > Devuan have a workflow driven by the autobuild infrastructure based > on gitlab + jenkins + dak Ok, sounds good. > and for external hosted sources the devuan gitlab project > will have just the debian directory and a devuan specific script similar > to

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

2015-01-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 01:27:38AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Enrico, > > > I dont believe ACLs are a good idea anyways. They introduce yet another > > (orthogonal) dimension to the system, so heavily increase management > > complexity. For example, it's hard to trace problems that way, if /de

Re: [Dng] Network manager replacement.

2015-01-03 Thread Rudy Lorren
I recently made the switch to wicd and haven't had any problems with it... It will even allow for multiple interfaces (onboard/usb) with totally independent ips' Some of you guys with more exotic setups should see how well it works for you. ___ Dng ma

Re: [Dng] HNY

2015-01-03 Thread Franco Lanza
On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 04:29:56PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Minimal set of packages ... Let me hope. Does that mean we'll be able > to point sources.list to a new repository and gradually transition from > Debian's > Jessie to Devuan's? Yes, absolutely. This is one of our primary goals for

Re: [Dng] ./debian/ and ./devuan/

2015-01-03 Thread Franco Lanza
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 08:56:39PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Poerhaps we should also have a ./devuan/ directory. We'd use the ./debian/ > directiry if the ./devuan/ directory were missing, but it just might make it > easier to track changes in debian, and if debian were ever to > cooperate, it

Re: [Dng] package submission

2015-01-03 Thread Franco Lanza
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 07:05:24PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > Hi folks, > > > do we already have defined workflows for package submission ? > > I'm usually maintaining everything in git repos, where each distro > has a separate branch, which directly adds ./debian/ directo