[Dng] Device management [WAS: system scriptinng language.]

2014-12-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 24.12.2014 06:48, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi, (bouncing back to the list for a broader discussion) > Thanks for your feedback! The "container friendliness" design point > is intentional, and can certainly be used to give each user/session > their own /dev instance. Great. What we now need is a l

Re: [Dng] Packaging system

2014-12-25 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 24 December 2014 at 12:16, Alex 'AdUser' Z wrote: > I was late to the main discussion, but i want show you intresting > thoughts from one of the oldest DD: > http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/ > > Some items (deb-internals related) very hard to implement without > partly/compl

[Dng] HowTo Fork Debian - Step-by-Step Guide, need help to achieve it!

2014-12-25 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Hey Guys! Before going forward with Devuan, I would like to be able to Fork Debian by myself. Why? Because of, let me say, the Scientific Method. I need to reproduce this entire "Debian fork procedure", so I can contribute back. At first, I was thinking about a "draft procedure", like this: 1-

[Dng] What to do with udev? Some ideas...

2014-12-25 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Guys, I'm wondering here about what to do with `udev`, which is `systemd` in fact... What about this: 1- Rename current `udev` package to `systemd-udev`; 2- Add `vdev`; 3- Add `eudev`; 4- Add `mdev`; 4- Create a new Metapackage called `udev`, that will Depends on `eudev | vdev | mdev | syst

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-25 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Can you guys believe this: A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio: USER PID %CPU *%MEM*VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND userzyx 25830 0.3*75.0* 6171772 4487884 ? S wrote: > Dear Friends, > > my motivation for use apulse is t

Re: [Dng] configuration management

2014-12-25 Thread Alex 'AdUser' Z
'ucf' package already does the 'automerge or ask-user-on-fail' task. The only thing you should do - mark file as config during packaging. Whole /etc tree in vcs is overkill (this is based on my own experiments with svn, bare git and etckeeper). First trouble you will face on this way - no one pop

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2014-12-25 Thread m_maass
Dear Friends, my motivation for use apulse is the follow: i like simple systems, witch do what they say and no more. Sometime i need sound from my PC, and i use/have ALSA. Some software, especialy actual skype work only with PA or with this nice part of sofware. I do not need "a network-capable

Re: [Dng] configuration management

2014-12-25 Thread Christoph Lechleitner
Am 25. Dezember 2014 18:54:54 MEZ, schrieb Hendrik Boom : >On installation, the configuration files (in /etc, of course; are there > >others?) should all be checked into a revision management system, with >a >vendor branch (the upstream versions from devuan) and a local branch >(the versions as

Re: [Dng] system scriptinng language.

2014-12-25 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2014-12-25 at 13:00 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:44:26AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote: > > Hi T.J., sorry this is late--this thread got lost in my inbox. > > > > Thank you for your feedback regarding GPLv3. > > The *big* problem with GPLv3 is that it is incompatible

Re: [Dng] system scriptinng language.

2014-12-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:44:26AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi T.J., sorry this is late--this thread got lost in my inbox. > > Thank you for your feedback regarding GPLv3. The *big* problem with GPLv3 is that it is incompatible with GPLv2. It *is* compatible with GPL2+, but there is a lot of s

[Dng] configuration management

2014-12-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On installation, the configuration files (in /etc, of course; are there others?) should all be checked into a revision management system, with a vendor branch (the upstream versions from devuan) and a local branch (the versions as adated to local requirrements). Every time an upgrade makes ch

Re: [Dng] Feliz Navidad

2014-12-25 Thread Lev
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:48:54 +0100 envite wrote: > Or to put it better, if you are Christian I wish you to have a good > free coding day to celebrate the false but widely celebrated day of > the birth of the wise carpenter, around 2020 years ago. And if you > are not, I wish you a good free codin

[Dng] Feliz Navidad

2014-12-25 Thread envite
Whether you are Christian or not, I wish you Merry Christmas. Or to put it better, if you are Christian I wish you to have a good free coding day to celebrate the false but widely celebrated day of the birth of the wise carpenter, around 2020 years ago. And if you are not, I wish you a good free