[dmarc-ietf] Dmarcbis way forward

2023-10-23 Thread Francesca Palombini
I have been asked by Murray to assist with a consensus evaluation on the discussion that has been going on for a while about the dmarcbis document and how to move forward. I have made an attempt to evaluate consensus on the topic, trying to look at it from a complete outsider’s point of view an

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Dmarcbis way forward

2023-10-23 Thread Alessandro Vesely
My opinion is that Barry's text is good as is. As far as delimiting a SHOULD NOT with another SHOULD is legit, this sentence sounds clear to me: It is therefore critical that domains that host users who might post messages to mailing lists SHOULD NOT publish p=reject. Domains tha

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC policy discovery and invalid tag exception.

2023-10-23 Thread Matthäus Wander
Murray S. Kucherawy wrote on 2023-10-20 21:35: (2) Mapping a misspelled "reject" or "quarantine" to "none" even only in the report will be confusing; the domain owner will be told there's a "none" out there when there isn't.  A non-thorough domain owner might conclude that the receiver is broke

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC policy discovery and invalid tag exception.

2023-10-23 Thread Brotman, Alex
I can add this. I should note that generally, while there's an "error" field available, there's no guidance about what should go in there. (not in 7489 either that I could find in a brief search) -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast > -Original Message

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC policy discovery and invalid tag exception.

2023-10-23 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 12:04 PM Brotman, Alex wrote: > I should note that generally, while there's an "error" field available, > there's no guidance about what should go in there. (not in 7489 either that > I could find in a brief search) > Has there ever been any push for structured content th

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC policy discovery and invalid tag exception.

2023-10-23 Thread Brotman, Alex
Not that I’m aware of. But even if we leave it unstructured, including examples about what may be useful could be of assistance. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast From: Murray S. Kucherawy Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 3:12 PM To: Brotman, Alex Cc: Matthäus

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Dmarcbis way forward

2023-10-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, October 23, 2023 4:03:36 AM EDT Francesca Palombini wrote: > I have been asked by Murray to assist with a consensus evaluation on the > discussion that has been going on for a while about the dmarcbis document > and how to move forward. > > I have made an attempt to evaluate consensus o