Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-25 Thread bruno desthuilliers
On Jul 24, 12:40 am, Javier Guerra Giraldez wrote: > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:03 PM, bruno desthuilliers > > wrote: > > I don't understand what you mean by "serverside apps" here - I mean, > > Django IS for serverside applications, not client side (which would > > require javascript). > > There

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-25 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 04:25 -0700, Dmitry Pisklov wrote: > PS I am a Java developer, and more then year ago started looking into > python, wrote few small components for work and now trying to leverage > django for my web-project. I doubt I could do something so fast if I > haven't known python at

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-24 Thread Tim Sawyer
On 24/07/11 16:22, fred.se...@sunrise.com wrote: The only area where I've really struggled is in building a SOAP api to conform to some vendor requirement. It's hard to figure out which python soap module is the right one (i.e. maintained and documented) while Java seems to have better tools. But

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-24 Thread fred.se...@sunrise.com
After many years of developing desktop applications in Python, I had to learn Java and all the web development concepts required in a Java/Tomcat world. After years of Java web development my company has finally come to recognize that ANY development in Python is significantly easier than almos

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-24 Thread bobhaugen
On Jul 23, 8:19 am, Riefers wrote: > I've spent the 10+ years developing serverside apps in java. I've > never done any web page developement. Someone recommended Django. Any > suggestions on where to start? I learned Python and Django at the same time. A lot of people have changed their recomme

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-24 Thread Dmitry Pisklov
Not exactly true. Both java and Python are *strongly* typed. However, Java has static typing, and python has dynamic duck-typing system. That means, type of your object is detected in run-time, but it cannot be changed, contrary to weakly typed languages like PHP, where you can treat string as

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-23 Thread Doug the Webmaster
I went from JAVA to python and am now learning django. Going from JAVA to python is not a big deal. Most of the concepts are the same, the biggest difference being that JAVA is strongly typed and python is weakly typed. This just means a python object can be any type, it doesn't have to be declare

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-23 Thread Javier Guerra Giraldez
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:03 PM, bruno desthuilliers wrote: > I don't understand what you mean by "serverside apps" here - I mean, > Django IS for serverside applications, not client side (which would > require javascript). There are other kinds of servers and clients besides web, you know. Also

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-23 Thread bruno desthuilliers
On 23 juil, 15:19, Riefers wrote: > I've spent the 10+ years developing serverside apps in java. I've > never done any web page developement. Someone recommended Django. Any > suggestions on where to start? Is Django too advanced for me if I've > never done web side developement? I don't understa

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-23 Thread Victor Manuel Quiñones Victor
Hi guys I'm agree with those guys, no further python knowledge it is required to start with django, but maybe in the future will be necesary to increase your django skills. good luck and enjoy django. On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Furqan Rauf wrote: > One thing for sure you need to know so

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-23 Thread Furqan Rauf
One thing for sure you need to know some HTML + CSS as well I remember when I started Django I had my application but the UI sucked bad so put the combo on ur check list :D On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:52 AM, jocke khazad wrote: > HI, > > To have some knowlege of python is of course helpful but I t

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-23 Thread jocke khazad
HI, To have some knowlege of python is of course helpful but I think you can learn to write django applications quite fast starting with Djangos own tutorial since you have programming knowlege form another language. https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/tutorial01/ Good luck! On Sat, Jul

Re: Web development newbie

2011-07-23 Thread Paul Schewietzek
Some python knowledge is helpful, if not required. Since you should know general programming architectures from java, I recommend "Dive into Python" to learn python. http://diveintopython.org/ 2011/7/23 Riefers > I've spent the 10+ years developing serverside apps in java. I've > never done