On 6 août, 22:53, paulo couto wrote:
> Thank you all for your advices.
> I started with the beginners guide from the python official site because i
> think i should learn at least the basics of python before move into django.
Yeps, right. Better to start with the core language, then learn the
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On 5 août, 20:30, Doug Ballance wrote:
> Your time spent learning python and django
> will not be wasted if you also choose to learn/use php. I think it's
> much easier to learn good methodology and practices with python, and
> then carry those practices over to php than than the other way
> arou
Thank you all for your advices.
I started with the beginners guide from the python official site because i
think i should learn at least the basics of python before move into django.
What you advice after i complete the beginners guide?Should i pick one of my
designs and try to "pythonize" it? Shou
I don't think it's necessarily a choice between learning php or
learning python. Most programming languages are fairly similar in
concept, and once you've mastered one it's reasonably easy to pick up
a new one. Python is a great language, but I think it's especially
great as a first language. You
I think many of the members of this group have a pro-python bias for a
good reason. Most of us have had to work with many other frameworks and
languages and Python is the only one I would use to "unwind".
Sometimes it's worth "paying your dues"
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I came into Django as a designer. It can be done, just take baby
steps. The more python you learn, the happier you'll be, and the more
productive. But in the mean time, you can do a lot with generic views
and reusable apps that would keep you from having to write much code
at all. I would suggest f
If you are thinking about diving into PHP, I suggest you read this
first:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/02/17/PHP
It's five years old, but it contains a lot of links to pro- and anti-
PHP rants, which you should consider. (Consider also that there's no
good Unicode support inside PH
I personally learned python without any previous programming knowledge. TBH,
I used to write scripts for mIRC, so I knew *some* very basic things, but be
certain I had to rewire my entire brain to think like a real programmer.
I'm now on my third django project and while my developing speed has
im
Well I am trying to avoid PHP at all costs. Maybe im thinking it the wrong
way, but after tweaking a wordpress theme, PHP seems very "ugly" and
"unreadable" to me. I also developed some kind of mental block about PHP and
I know for sure that if I have to learn it I will hate every second of
it...he
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 11:45 +0100, Cal Leeming wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Andre Lopes
> wrote:
> If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider
> CodeIgniter. It is
> the easier Framework for a starter.
>
>
> I personally came from CodeIgniter. Trust me
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:
> If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is
> the easier Framework for a starter.
>
OP: I personally came from CodeIgniter. Trust me, it is a *terrible*
framework (in comparison to lightweight PHP frameworks and djan
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:
> If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is
> the easier Framework for a starter.
>
I personally came from CodeIgniter. Trust me, it is a *terrible* framework
(in comparison to lightweight PHP frameworks and django).
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Thank you all for the advices/sugestions.
For what i read most of yo
django is best for you,.beacuse it is writed by Python.and python is a
clear language.
2011/8/3 Bruce Dou
> Or you can try Rails.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:
>
>> If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is
>> the easier Framework for a st
Or you can try Rails.
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:
> If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is
> the easier Framework for a starter.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, paulo couto wrote:
> > Ok thanks for the clarifications :
> > I guess i'l
If you want to start with a PHP Framework, consider CodeIgniter. It is
the easier Framework for a starter.
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, paulo couto wrote:
> Ok thanks for the clarifications :
> I guess i'll go to PHP for now and when i have more prog. experience i'll
> try python and django t
On 2 August 2011 18:49, bruno desthuilliers
wrote:
>
> As far as I'm concerned, OSX is a pain (as a programming platform)
> whaver language / techno you want to use.
>
>
Don't be put off by this - it's certainly not my (nor many, many other
people's) experience of programming on OS X.
>From my ex
Ok thanks for the clarifications :
I guess i'll go to PHP for now and when i have more prog. experience i'll
try python and django to be able to build my own stuff from scratch.
Now i only need to find where to start in PHP :)
Thanks all for your time.
2011/8/2 webcomm
> On Aug 2, 4:57 pm, "bio
On Aug 2, 4:57 pm, "biofob...@gmail.com" wrote:
> Thank you all for the advices/sugestions.
> For what i read most of you advice on PHP + framework and i can
> understand that. I looked at django and rails as a option for me to
> have. My PHP knowledge is very limited, and sometimes i need some
>
Thank you all for the advices/sugestions.
For what i read most of you advice on PHP + framework and i can
understand that. I looked at django and rails as a option for me to
have. My PHP knowledge is very limited, and sometimes i need some
functionality on a wordpress site or on a textpattern one b
On 2 août, 18:21, "biofob...@gmail.com" wrote:
> I am a designer guy not a programmer. My coding skills are html, css
> and some jquery tweaks to suit my needs, but i come to a point where i
> think i need to learn a real language. What i'm doing now is working
> with Textpattern or Wordpress(but
Hi there,
For building dynamic websites, I'd say you should learn a language
like PHP or Python. Yep. For working with Django you definitely need
to know Python.
Something like WordPress has a very different and narrower set of
intentions behind its design than does Django. WordPress is really
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
> Difficult to say really.
>
> If your main focus is to be a designer, and not to be a full on programmer,
> then I'd say you are probably best sticking with wordpress.
>
> If you don'
Difficult to say really.
If your main focus is to be a designer, and not to be a full on programmer,
then I'd say you are probably best sticking with wordpress.
If you don't really have a main focus, or you have some spare time, then
defo take some time to learn python+django. I would strongly ad
Go for it. It will require you to learn to program, but if you're up for
it then that's awesome.
If you do the tutorial and read the following wiki page I'm sure you'll
find plenty of helpful people on this list.
https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/UsingTheMailingList
Shawn
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