Getting the Django Admin Working in Apache

2006-07-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey There, Basically - I have set up Django all fine on my Windows-based server (my webhost doesn't support Python 2.3). I can get everything working on the development server - but am unclear as how to serve the admin files through Apache so I can get the full admin interface. Can anyone help me

Re: PostgreSQL vs. MySQL

2006-07-06 Thread Ian Holsman
I've been using mysql with Django for about a 8 months and have never had any issues with it. I chose mysql as I am more familiar with it. others are more familiar with postgreSQL. choose the one you are more comfortable with. regards ian. On 07/07/2006, at 4:17 PM, Thomas Ashelford wrote:

PostgreSQL vs. MySQL

2006-07-06 Thread Thomas Ashelford
I keep reading that PostgreSQL is the preferred database for use with Django, but I'm wondering if anyone can explain what its concrete advantages are. I've just moved from DreamHost to Webfaction to get the advantage of using mod_python instead of fcgi. Already the advantages of mod_python are c

Re: how do I exlude big fields from long listings?

2006-07-06 Thread GrumpySimon
Sure, but it's very common (and good database etiquette) to want to get a subset of fields from a set of rows and leave out unnecessary information. This is really quite important when it comes to things like blob fields. It'd be very nice if the standard queryset could also take a values-style

Re: Not sure how to debug this error...

2006-07-06 Thread m h
I figured this out, my view was returning a function instead of an HttpResponse object. I'm still confused as to why this even worked on my other machine. It had the same error. Is there some caching going on somewhere (that I haven't enabled). I'm just wondering why the other machine appeared

Re: Basic Django questions from a new user

2006-07-06 Thread Bob
ok... Figured it out. That was painful, but I'm impressed. As soon as I finish I'm going to write a really basic tutorial on how to do it... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To

Not sure how to debug this error...

2006-07-06 Thread m h
I have a page that django is appearing to not like on one machine. (Runs fine on another, both running todays svn...) I don't even get the error page, I just get a text traceback containing the following: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/oss/lib/python/site-packages/django/core/se

Re: where to put template tags post mr

2006-07-06 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Jul 6, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > It should work. You have some other problem going on. The standard > queries would be "is the app in INSTALLED_APPS?" and "do you have > templatetags/__init__.py?" Since I gather you are using code that > worked > previously, I guess these

Re: where to put template tags post mr

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 09:00 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > On 07-Jul-06, at 8:41 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: > > > > > app/templatetags/ ? > > thats what is not working It should work. You have some other problem going on. The standard queries would be "is the app in INSTALLED_APPS?" and "do y

Re: Basic Django questions from a new user

2006-07-06 Thread Bob
Thanks for your reply. I've already finished lesson 1, 2, and three, and gone into #4, but still not clear. I'm going to try to create an app called "content" and see if I can make a web page that loads some content posts. I'm not sure if that is the right track, but will give it a try... I wi

Re: where to put template tags post mr

2006-07-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 07-Jul-06, at 8:41 AM, Ian Holsman wrote: > > app/templatetags/ ? thats what is not working -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://avsap.org.in --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Re: where to put template tags post mr

2006-07-06 Thread Ian Holsman
app/templatetags/ ? On 07/07/2006, at 1:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > hi, > in pre MR, custom templatetags directory was placed in the same level > as the views.py file and it used to work. In post MR, django cannot > find these tags. Where do i put them. Putting them in the django/ > temp

where to put template tags post mr

2006-07-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, in pre MR, custom templatetags directory was placed in the same level as the views.py file and it used to work. In post MR, django cannot find these tags. Where do i put them. Putting them in the django/ templatetags directory works, but that is not acceptable. -- regards kg http://lawg

Re: Basic Django questions from a new user

2006-07-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 07-Jul-06, at 8:01 AM, Bob wrote: > I hope I am on the right track here. Are there any basic tutorials on > how to get a basic web site online with Django (not just a polls or > small detail of a web site)? i suggest you go through all four lessons of the tutorial - things will become cle

Basic Django questions from a new user

2006-07-06 Thread Bob
I'm learning Django. I'm just about done with the 4th tutorial, and have printed out the documentation. I'm not a programmer, but know some PHP/MySQL and worked through the first half of a couple of Python books. One thing that I don't understand is how to get a site online. The tutorials for

Re: how do I exlude big fields from long listings?

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 18:09 -0700, GrumpySimon wrote: > Unfortunately, this gives you a dictionary and not an object ( and so > you lose all the cool object methods like get_absolute_url, get_FOOsets > etc ). Is there a way around this I'm missing? Either you get an object fully initialised or yo

Re: how do I exlude big fields from long listings?

2006-07-06 Thread GrumpySimon
Unfortunately, this gives you a dictionary and not an object ( and so you lose all the cool object methods like get_absolute_url, get_FOOsets etc ). Is there a way around this I'm missing? Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > Look at the .values() method on QuerySets ([1]). It will give you back a > list

Re: PIL/Freetype2 Problem

2006-07-06 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Tyson Tate wrote: > PIL seems to have odd issues with MacOS X in its default state. I had > crazy problems trying to get PIL to read JPEGs. > > Here's some binary installers that handle PIL and other Python > libraries much more smoothly: > >

Re: Where to put custom sql?

2006-07-06 Thread Jorge Gajon
Hi, I'm not sure if this could help you, or maybe I'm not getting it right. In any case please excuse me if this is something that you already have checked out. You can override the default managers to do different things. I think this could be useful: http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Jorge Gajon
> > Thanks. I don't know what to put inside html2python. The prepare > method actually sets the list to the values (the first value in the > tuple for choices). I don't think there's anything to change in html2python. As you said the prepare only puts the selected check boxes in the self.data lis

Re: Problem with apps in admin

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 15:02 +, Enrico wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using apache and mod_python on Windows. Here's my config on > httpd.conf: > > > SetHandler python-program > PythonPath "['C:/apache2triad/django/projects'] + sys.path" > PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Jorge Gajon
Hi Le Roux, > the field name is category_ids, but the checkboxes are named > category_ids1 and category_ids3. That is to be expected. Imagine you have two CheckboxSelectMultipleFields in your manipulator, one named 'color_selection' and other named 'music_selection', which represent foreign keys

Re: Generic views and dates in the future

2006-07-06 Thread Ian Holsman
I created a mix between the date-based generic view and the object- list view which I call 'history_view' (http://svn.zyons.python- hosting.com/trunk/zilbo/common/utils/views/filter.py ) it allows you show things starting from/ending on a specific date. an example of this is http://economy-cha

Re: Generic views and dates in the future

2006-07-06 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 7/6/06, Jay Parlar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I were to write a backwards compatable patch, is it something you'd > be willing to put in? I'm thinking along the lines of a keyword > argument 'allow_future' which has a default value of False. Sure, feel free to submit! Adrian -- Adrian

Re: Generic views and dates in the future

2006-07-06 Thread Jay Parlar
On 7/6/06, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/6/06, Jay Parlar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's the justification for the date based generic views not showing > > dates in the future? > > The justification is: The system was built for displaying "archival" > information, not

Re: Generic views and dates in the future

2006-07-06 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 7/6/06, Jay Parlar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the justification for the date based generic views not showing > dates in the future? The justification is: The system was built for displaying "archival" information, not future information. We've just never had that need. Adrian -- Ad

Re: Making session data visible to all templates?

2006-07-06 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 7/6/06, shredwheat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a site preference for my site that I'd like to make > automatically available to all my templates. I can't figure out a clean > way to do this. The TEMPLATE_CONTEXT_PROCESSORS setting is exactly for this purpose. Check it out here: http:/

Making session data visible to all templates?

2006-07-06 Thread shredwheat
I have a site preference for my site that I'd like to make automatically available to all my templates. I can't figure out a clean way to do this. On the template side I will likely create a tag that can fetch this setting from the request session. But I can't figure out where to access the sessi

Generic views and dates in the future

2006-07-06 Thread Jay Parlar
What's the justification for the date based generic views not showing dates in the future? I've got a model for community events that looks as follows: class Event(models.Model): title = models.CharField(maxlength=200) slug = models.SlugField(prepopulate_from=("title",)) pub_date = m

Re: PIL/Freetype2 Problem

2006-07-06 Thread Tyson Tate
On Jul 6, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Manuel Meyer wrote: ... > I installed Freetype 2.2.1 and PIL 1.1.5 and during PIL installation > it was metioned that FreeType is installed. What could be wrong. > > I am running Django 0.91 on Mac OS X 10.4.1 and Python 2.4.1 > > Thanks, Manuel PIL seems to have odd

Re: Manager for Admin

2006-07-06 Thread Paul Childs
I did some more digging and here is the reference for those who are interested: Field lookups are how you specify the meat of an SQL WHERE clause. They're specified as keyword arguments to the QuerySet methods filter(), exclude() and get(). http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/db_api/#fiel

Where to put custom sql?

2006-07-06 Thread Filipe
hello there, I'm starting with Django a new project where I most probably will be using only custom sql. The most part of the system will be some (complex) searching for data in a database, so I think I won't take a lot of benefit from using the ORM. What I'm planning is not to have model classe

PIL/Freetype2 Problem

2006-07-06 Thread Manuel Meyer
Hi, I want to try automatic header-graphics according to this recipes: http://www.jacobian.org/2006/jun/30/improved-text-image-view/ and http://www.jacobian.org/2006/jun/30/improved-text-image-view/ But when i try to access http://localhost:8000/a/?text=this I get an error: Tracebac

Re: Manager for Admin

2006-07-06 Thread Paul Childs
Many many thanks James. I have been going all over the map on that one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To uns

Re: Manager for Admin

2006-07-06 Thread Paul Childs
Many many thanks James. I have been going all over the map on that one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To uns

Re: Manager for Admin

2006-07-06 Thread James Bennett
On 7/6/06, Paul Childs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand why I got the errors but I don't understand how to create > the manager I need. class EditableRepairsManager(models.Manager): def get_query_set(self): return super(EditableRepairsManager, self).get_query_set().filter(cur

Re: Don't make me wait!

2006-07-06 Thread Tyson Tate
On Jul 6, 2006, at 10:07 AM, mamcxyz wrote: > Why not put the messages in the database and read it from other side? I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean that I should take the API call responses and read them from the user-side with AJAX? I hope that's not what you meant beca

Manager for Admin

2006-07-06 Thread Paul Childs
I am trying to create a manager for a model so that only objects with a status of 0 or 1 show up in the admin. Could someone please let me know how to write a "where" clause in the manager (e.g "current_status < 2" or something like "current_status=0 or current_status=1") Here's what I tried...

Re: Don't make me wait!

2006-07-06 Thread mamcxyz
Why not put the messages in the database and read it from other side? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsub

Re: how do I exlude big fields from long listings?

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
Aah thanks. I actually saw that function, noticed that it returns dictionaries, but didn't notice the fact that you can pass in the fields you want as parameters.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Dj

Re: Problem with apps in admin

2006-07-06 Thread Enrico
Better yet, I've just changed the PythonPath for the admin: PythonPath "['C:/apache2triad/django/projects'] + sys.path" The rest gets inherited. Thanks again. Enrico --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: Problem with apps in admin

2006-07-06 Thread Enrico
Hi, I'm using apache and mod_python on Windows. Here's my config on httpd.conf: SetHandler python-program PythonPath "['C:/apache2triad/django/projects'] + sys.path" PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython SetEnv DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE rico.settings

django authentication with trac login

2006-07-06 Thread lawgon
i was trying to get the new multiauth by apache against django users working with the trac login. But i keep getting 500 errors. On looking at the apache logs, the errors come in different places each time. 'module has no attribute auth' at one time, cannot import User from auth.models at another

Re: generic relations in the admin interface

2006-07-06 Thread va:patrick.kranzlmueller
sounds a bit complicated: save first, go back to the entry, add tag ... not sure if that works for me. I´ll check out your scripts later. for now, I´ll stick with many-to-many ... thanks for your answer, patrick Am 06.07.2006 um 15:31 schrieb Jay Parlar: > > On 7/6/06, va:patrick.kranzlmue

Re: ForeignKey and Admin

2006-07-06 Thread arthur debert
What you are looking for is the edit_inline option for the event field: class EventDate(models.Model): ... event = models.ForeignKey(Event, edit_inline=True) more info here: http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/tutorial2/#adding-related-objects [] arthur --~--~-~--~

Re: Django and Oracle, again

2006-07-06 Thread Brett Parker
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:52:57AM +0100, Frankie Robertson wrote: > > I think the plan is that if anyone offers to maintain it then it'll > happen, otherwise it probably won't. > > On 06/07/06, BP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've just run the 3278 revision of Django trunk against 10g XE

Re: generic relations in the admin interface

2006-07-06 Thread Jay Parlar
On 7/6/06, va:patrick.kranzlmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just tested generic relations for tagging. > to my surprise, there´s no possibility to enter tags (for my blog- > entries) in the admin interface. > > however, i do get additional user permissions: "can add tagged > item", ... > d

Re: generic relations in the admin interface

2006-07-06 Thread James Bennett
On 7/6/06, va:patrick.kranzlmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just tested generic relations for tagging. > to my surprise, there´s no possibility to enter tags (for my blog- > entries) in the admin interface. The generic relations feature is extremely (it's only been in trunk a week or two) an

generic relations in the admin interface

2006-07-06 Thread va:patrick.kranzlmueller
just tested generic relations for tagging. to my surprise, there´s no possibility to enter tags (for my blog- entries) in the admin interface. however, i do get additional user permissions: "can add tagged item", ... did I miss something? code: class TaggedItem(models.Model): """A tag

Re: Django & Apache 1.x

2006-07-06 Thread Carlos Yoder
> in short: > > 1. yes, it works without it. if you dig deep enough at > code.djangoproject.com, i think you can find some kind of fcgi.py which > is afaik a stripped-down flup, or something like that. > 2. the servage.net's answer is stupid :) [snip snip snip] > i hope this (chaotic) explanatio

Re: Django & Apache 1.x

2006-07-06 Thread Gábor Farkas
Carlos Yoder wrote: > * Important * > > Does anyone know if Django will run on a config with Apache 1.x + > FastCGI, but without flup? At servage.net they just told me that they > don't support flup "because of high memory usage", so I don't know > what to do. > > I'll be most obliged if anyone

ForeignKey and Admin

2006-07-06 Thread X-Phuture
Hello, I'm currently creating a website in Django and I have a problem to create my models. I have 2 classes : - Event : which hold the information about an event (where it take place, the number of places available, etc...) - EventDate which is used to know when an event takes place (since an e

Re: how do I exlude big fields from long listings?

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 12:17 +, Le Roux wrote: > Is there any way of telling the db api to not return certain fields? I > want to get a list of all the news articles for a specific year and I > don't need the big fields like the body text. I can't find anything in > the documentation, but thoug

how do I exlude big fields from long listings?

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
Is there any way of telling the db api to not return certain fields? I want to get a list of all the news articles for a specific year and I don't need the big fields like the body text. I can't find anything in the documentation, but thought that maybe someone else already dealt with it. I know

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux Bodenstein
Thanks. I don't know what to put inside html2python. The prepare method actually sets the list to the values (the first value in the tuple for choices). See.. render sets the name of the checkbox to fieldname+value. The value of the checkbox field is just On or not there. look at prepare: def p

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 10:31 +, Le Roux wrote: > Looks like I fixed it now. Here's a patch: > > django_src/django/forms/__init__.py: > > --- __init__.py (revision 3278) > +++ __init__.py (working copy) > @@ -53,6 +53,7 @@ > > def get_validation_errors(self, new_data): > "Return

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2300 http://code.djangoproject.com/attachment/ticket/2300/django_forms__init__.diff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, s

Re: Django and Oracle, again

2006-07-06 Thread Frankie Robertson
I think the plan is that if anyone offers to maintain it then it'll happen, otherwise it probably won't. On 06/07/06, BP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've just run the 3278 revision of Django trunk against 10g XE and it's > far from working. Any comment on its status and planned inclusion in >

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
oops. that manipulator.save() bit is a bit buggy (I changed it after I pasted to give returnValue a more meaningful name and then didn't change all the occurrances) but it works here ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
Looks like I fixed it now. Here's a patch: django_src/django/forms/__init__.py: --- __init__.py (revision 3278) +++ __init__.py (working copy) @@ -53,6 +53,7 @@ def get_validation_errors(self, new_data): "Returns dictionary mapping field_names to error-message lists" +self

Re: Using a Django project in a python script.

2006-07-06 Thread Frankie Robertson
I think it's possible to use the db api on its own, you still have to declare models, but then it can be fairly independent of the rest of djnago. AFAIK you still need to make an application for the models file, but you can just ignore the views if you want to use this independently. On 06/07/06,

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
aah sorry.. my reply was to your first reply ;) I'll re-read everything and then think again ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users

Re: Using a Django project in a python script.

2006-07-06 Thread Iain Duncan
>>As a part of the application I'm writing I need to do certain things to > > the database every night. The easiest way to implement this would be a > python script run every night by cron. > > Set env DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE setting for the script. Then just use > your models and template as yo

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
I'm referring to CheckboxSelectMultipleField and your code snippet is for CheckboxField... I'm going to do an svn up just incase and think about it a bit more.. maybe I'm missing something. As far as I can tell the rendering works fine. The value is just completely blank "on the other side" after

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 19:09 +1000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 09:01 +, Le Roux wrote: > > I'm useing a CheckboxSelectMultipleField in a custom manipulator. (this > > really needs documenting, by the way) > > > > First off, the checkbox fields never get given the attribu

Re: prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 09:01 +, Le Roux wrote: > I'm useing a CheckboxSelectMultipleField in a custom manipulator. (this > really needs documenting, by the way) > > First off, the checkbox fields never get given the attribute > value="on". This is checked in prepare() to populate new_data. Thi

prepare method in Manipulator (and FomField) doesn't get called (and also a minor bug in CheckboxSelectMultipleField)

2006-07-06 Thread Le Roux
I'm useing a CheckboxSelectMultipleField in a custom manipulator. (this really needs documenting, by the way) First off, the checkbox fields never get given the attribute value="on". This is checked in prepare() to populate new_data. This is easy to fix by just adding it into the render() method.

Re: Don't make me wait!

2006-07-06 Thread Tyson Tate
On Jul 6, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > This sort of problem is why, when you brought this solution up last > month, a couple of us were still recommending doing this with cron or > some other system-level process, rather than hooking it into Django: a > transient process for han

Django and Oracle, again

2006-07-06 Thread BP
I've just run the 3278 revision of Django trunk against 10g XE and it's far from working. Any comment on its status and planned inclusion in the 0.95 release? BP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Dj

Re: Adding a value to the request.session in a middleware

2006-07-06 Thread Guillermo Fernandez Castellanos
Ok, my fault. Here is what I want to do: I want to keep track of the users that visit my site, keeping in the DB what IP addresses visited my site, when, ... I define a visit as a click on one of my pages, given that this visit is done a certain time after the last visit (30 minutes, 1 hour, 1 d

Re: Documentation for hosting providers?

2006-07-06 Thread Carlos Yoder
>> Would it be possible to put together a Wiki entry on how to provide support for Django, >> especially geared towards busy ISP admins? It should certainly help me (selfish selfish >> selfish), but I'm sure also other people too. > > Hey Carlos, > > I think this is a fantastic idea. If you, or so

Re: Don't make me wait!

2006-07-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 23:39 -0700, Tyson Tate wrote: > In one of my Django projects, I use the dispatcher and signals to > notify various apps that the front page has been viewed. Some of > these apps run a method on the raising of this signal to see if it's > been more than X minutes since

Re: Django & Apache 1.x

2006-07-06 Thread Carlos Yoder
* Important * Does anyone know if Django will run on a config with Apache 1.x + FastCGI, but without flup? At servage.net they just told me that they don't support flup "because of high memory usage", so I don't know what to do. I'll be most obliged if anyone can clarify this quickly... thanks a