good intent

2019-09-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Run into this today, it’s probably nothing new, but ASF context wise I think it's worth reading and considering: http://thebias.com/2017/09/26/how-good-intent-undermines-diversity-and-inclusion Thanks, Justin - To unsubscri

Re: good intent

2019-09-16 Thread Matt Sicker
That was an interesting read, thanks. On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 05:39, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Run into this today, it’s probably nothing new, but ASF context wise I > think it's worth reading and considering: > > > http://thebias.com/2017/09/26/how-good-intent-undermines-diversity-and-incl

Re: good intent

2019-09-16 Thread Ross Gardler
I find this article to be potentially damaging but also potentially valuable. The "potentially damaging" part is likely because of where I work and what "assume good intent" means to me as a result. For me it doesn't mean "telling people to “assume good intent” is a sign that if they come to you

Re: good intent

2019-09-16 Thread Kenneth Knowles
The ASF code of conduct includes another item to balance it, which puts more responsibility on the sender: "Be careful in the words that we choose... take responsibility for our own speech" Both of these are critical in email. It is easy to misjudge intentions, if not careful. It is also easy to s

Re: good intent

2019-09-16 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 18:18, Ross Gardler wrote: > I find this article to be potentially damaging but also potentially > valuable. The "potentially damaging" part is likely because of where I work > and what "assume good intent" means to me as a result. For me it doesn't > mean "telling people t

Re: good intent

2019-09-16 Thread Ross Gardler
No, I didn't say carry on as we are. In fact I quoted the authors conclusion to highlight how I feel things should change : "create a culture that recognizes and pushes back against the ways that marginalized people are dehumanized. Expect people to demonstrate their good intent by treating peop