Re: A list of lies and half-truths around LiePlanet

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
You should organize StallmanCon! On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:01 PM wrote: > > Lie #1 > > (This was the kickoff) Stallman is a terrible person. > > > Nope, not really. He's still a hero to many, including many progressive > activists. He's certainly outspoken. > > The people he really pisses off ar

Re: A list of lies and half-truths around LiePlanet

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
When you use name calling and profanity I take you less seriously. And anyway, I think all of the constant jabbering on this list VS any real organizing is quite revealing. Instead of another 18 paragraph reply, consider more productive or collaborative alternatives. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:01 AM

Re: Discussion Digest, Vol 22, Issue 11

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
It sounds like you need a outlet for your opinions. Consider a presentation at LibrePlanet! On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:16 AM wrote: > > When you use name calling and profanity I take you less seriously. > > What's the difference? You don't take anything meaningful seriously. > > Your communication

Re: A list of lies and half-truths around LiePlanet

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
I thought it made sense that if a number of people want RMS to speak at LibrePlanet, they should either a) campaign to recruit and/or nominate him to speak there, or else b) organize a new conference. But you've certainly taken that and run with it, haven't you. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 6:36 PM wro

Re: A note to those attacking Stallman and attacking everyone who wants freedom

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Of course there was a grain of truth in the provocation. You very well could canvass for folks to recruit and/or nominate RMS to speak at LibrePlanet! I think there were 3, maybe 4 individuals who feel similarly to you. You can even raise independent funding for it, without conflicts of interest. A

Re: We could of course just submit to LiePlanet and their BS

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
You know, that's a lot of emailing for someone who's not organizing to get RMS on stage On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 10:19 AM wrote: > > > I think there were 3, maybe 4 individuals who feel similarly to you. > > > Thank you by the way, for demonstrating my earlier point about how two > lies combine an

Re: We could of course just submit to LiePlanet and their BS

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
My desired outcome here is for folks in the free software movement/ club to actually get organized instead of frothing at the mouth. But with each round of namecalling about LibrePlanet, I become less confident folks really want to see things changed, because nobody is proposing any action beyond w

Re: We could of course just submit to Danny's BS

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Yes it is. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:21 AM wrote: > > My desired outcome here is for folks in the free software movement/ club > to actually get organized instead of frothing at the mouth. > > It really isn't. > > You back liars and backstabbers, and hope people won't notice. > > You taunt peopl

Re: We could of course just submit to Danny's BS

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Maybe you don't know organizing when you see it? I helped organize https://cubaconf.org/ along with many others, it was great. I'm also a volunteer organizing with https://techworkerscoalition.org/. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:32 AM wrote: > > Then that is one of the na

Re: We could of course just submit to Danny's BS

2022-03-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
I have nothing to do with LibrePlanet, but I have gone a couple of times and met many nice people including RMS. And no, I'm not a cofounder. That's Paige and Liz and Matt. TWC is a global network of some 4,000 people working in tech, and has done a lot to build worker power and unions, to fight s