Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Montag 06 Mai 2019 17:39:09 schrieb Paul Boddie: [..] While I agree that newsletter, discussion involvement and communication can be improved, I also think that it is already at school grade B (British System). So it it is happening, functioning and it leads to distribution of information and

Re: free software promotion and local status

2019-05-08 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Montag 06 Mai 2019 14:41:31 schrieb Paul Sutton: > On of the digital skills sites is https://www.learnmyway.com/ I think th > e issue with these digital unite et al is lack of volunteers who are the > digital champions with these skills to share them. The question here is: Who decided on what i

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Montag 06 Mai 2019 21:18:44 schrieb Carsten Agger: > But maybe the FSFE should, if it were possible, consider producing and > funding free software itself, the way the FSF has been funding and > spearheading the GNU project. The GNU project was started in different times. To me it has reached i

Re: obedience and control (was: ....)

2019-05-08 Thread Michael Kesper
Hi, On 07.05.19 10:33, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 03/05/2019 12:35, Florian Snow wrote: >> Hi Christian, >> >> I am also not directly involved in this, but I think legal action (snip) >> >> (snip) For example, anyone who wants to can file a GDPR violation with their >> local data protec

Re: obedience and control (was: ....)

2019-05-08 Thread jah
On 07/05/19 09:33, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 03/05/2019 12:35, Florian Snow wrote: >> Hi Christian, >> >> I am also not directly involved in this, but I think legal action (snip) >> >> (snip) For example, anyone who wants to can file a GDPR violation with their >> local data protection office

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Carsten Agger
On 5/8/19 9:12 AM, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > The GNU project was started in different times. To me it has reached its > goals > and should have been called concluded for good. (See comments to my article > [1]). It's my understanding that GNU considers itself to be a project for the creatio

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Mittwoch 08 Mai 2019 09:03:48 schrieb Bernhard E. Reiter: > my point is that I do not want a list where a constructive, respectful > discussion is possible. .. that I want a list where constructive and respectul discussion is possible. [This is what I've meant to write, but managed to change p

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Bastien
Hi Carsten, Carsten Agger writes: > But maybe the FSFE should, if it were possible, consider producing > and funding free software itself, the way the FSF has been funding > and spearheading the GNU project. Agreed. It would balance the lobbying activities of the FSFE in a sane way. It is a

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Bastien
Hi Bernhard, "Bernhard E. Reiter" writes: > The GNU project was started in different times. To me it has reached its > goals > and should have been called concluded for good. GNU has not ended. See https://www.gnu.org for what's going on. Thanks, -- Bastien _

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Nikos Roussos
On 08/05/2019 10:12, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > This probably means more explanations, I am sure I've written a lot of stuff > about this on mailinglists in the recent 18 years. Overall this is not just > the FSFE: Centralized software development has a number of hard drawbacks. I don't see how

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Mittwoch 08 Mai 2019 11:41:56 schrieb Carsten Agger: > > To me it has reached its goals and should have been called concluded > > for good. (See comments to my article [1]). > > I believe the struggle to > have a free operating system is an ongoing on > > [1] https://blogs.fsfe.org/bernhard/20

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Carsten Agger
On 5/8/19 12:55 PM, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: >> The question in relation to your post is: What are the precise goals >> of the GNU "initiativ" (my terminology, explained in [1]) and how can they >> be >> measured and reached? What is having a "free operating system"? >> >> One that is is "avai

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 8. May 2019 11.41.56 Carsten Agger wrote: > On 5/8/19 9:12 AM, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > > The GNU project was started in different times. To me it has reached its > > goals and should have been called concluded for good. (See comments to my > > article [1]). > > It's my understandi

Re: Strategy and serendipity

2019-05-08 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 8. May 2019 09.03.48 Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > > Actually I am referring to the history section "For the Long Term" of > https://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=2386 > which I believe was written by yourself. Yes, this was written by me. However, I still wanted to clarify that a lot of