Re: FSFE in Outreachy?

2017-09-04 Thread natacha
On 09/01/2017 09:54 AM, discussion-requ...@lists.fsfe.org wrote: > Subject: > Re: FSFE in Outreachy? > From: > Carmen Bianca Bakker > Date: > 09/01/2017 07:52 AM > > To: > discussion@lists.fsfe.org > > Dear Carmen This is my first post on this list that I have been lurking for some time but it

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-04 Thread Mat Witts
Paul/ > Discouraging people from using FB for example can be restated as > 'encouraging people to use FS'. >> Not necessarily. The (logical:-/) *necessity* of leaving FB to use FS wasn't a point I was making as far as I can see, and I wouldn't be keen to pursue it because with more and more softw

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-04 Thread Mat Witts
On 21/08/17 12:51, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > I think you mean "private software" which is only used by yorself, and > not shared to anyone, not even co-workers. Once you share it at least > with someone, it ought to be free/libre because it's no longer > "private". My understanding of 'priva

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-04 Thread Mat Witts
> Well, I wasn't arguing that persuading people to leave Facebook would be a gain for Free Software. This was something you stated, perhaps speculating on how some people might think: that in this zero-sum game, people leaving Facebook will have to choose something else to fill the void, and if you

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-04 Thread Mat Witts
On 21/08/17 14:28, Paul Boddie wrote: > However, if Mat should fail to do so here, it would be a private > matter between him and his daughter. You would think so wouldn't you? I can't help but see a horrible future for humanity under any alternate conditions. Adonay, I would welcome some justifi

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Sorry... I think I wrote something wrong indeed (perhaps due to being tired at the time)... my mistake. I didn't mean you are required to share every FS you write. Mat Witts writes: > On 21/08/17 12:51, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: >> I think you mean "private software" which is only used by y

Re: Public Money - Public Code: Helping with the campaign

2017-09-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Just for information: I was replying to the message which originated this thread (the one which also has the link to the wiki page about the campaign). Adonay Felipe Nogueira writes: > One thing that would be important to promote is GNU LibreJS markup > compliance when the government, legislativ

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-09-04 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Well, I hope Linux project decides to switch to GNU GPL 3+. Or even better: GNU AGPL3+. :) Also... Now I see what was the problem of threading: My own costume to avoid duplicating stuff, I'll try to fix that. :) Paul Boddie writes: > On Sunday 3. September 2017 15.34.55 Adonay Felipe Nogueira w

Re: FSFE in Outreachy?

2017-09-04 Thread Carmen Bianca Bakker
Hi Natacha, On Monday, 4 September 2017 10:17:16 CEST natacha wrote: > This is my first post on this list that I have been lurking for some Welcome to the mailing list :-) > > I don't know if it's okay if I add my five cents (adjusted for > > inflation), but I'm reasonably well-read on this and

Re: FSFE in Outreachy?

2017-09-04 Thread Daniel Guagnin
On 04.09.2017 10:17, natacha wrote: > But I am unequivocally against such programs, on the simple grounds that > it tries to combat discrimination _through_ discrimination, which is > about as silly to me as trying to achieve world peace through war. To just negate discrimination makes it even str