Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Alessandro Rubini
> [...] let's consider the advantages of negative campaigning: > + it increases the reach of a message (due to its emotional nature) Or not. In Europe we are "shocked", "outraged", "indignados" every day. We've got enough of that. Negative messages have no effect at all, in my opinion. Then we, (

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Federico Bruni
I guess that everybody has a different idea of what "negative campaigning" may be. I like how Daniel tried to frame the discussion below. Il giorno gio 27 lug 2017 alle 9:17, Daniel Pocock ha scritto: On 27/07/17 00:36, Federico Bruni wrote: It looks like your opinion is the opposite

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Davide Baldo
I would like to add just that a simple consideration into the table: negative campaign doesn't propose a solution, it may be present in the initial message but it would most likely be lost when referring to a friend. Also a negative message is usually associated with a losing party. ___

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, he has a point. This can be associated with a losing party by some people. However, since I don't know if he considers "negative campaigns" as "those saying things without facts and references being exposed" or if he considers "negative campaigns" as "those merely based on insults". I woul

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Paul Boddie
On Sunday 30. July 2017 12.22.04 Federico Bruni wrote: > > Take online privacy or security in general (against viruses and > malware). Recent history should have taught something to the masses, > but did they change their behaviour? Probably just a very tiny tiny > percentage. > When I happen to t

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Max Mehl
Thanks Johannes and Alessandro for a good explanation what negative campaigning actually is and how it can backfire to the sender. Some nitpicking comments from my perspective: # Alessandro Rubini [2017-07-30 11:26 +0200]: Negative campaigning doesn't work. You may be self-confident you are on

Re: Free Software security vulnerabilities: Heartbleed and other case studies?

2017-07-30 Thread J.B. Nicholson
Hugo Roy wrote: I'm looking for case studies on security and free software, in particular the differences in how the world can respond to the discovery of important vulnerabilities/exploits on free software vs. proprietary software. Structurally speaking vulnerabilities in proprietary software

Re: negative campaigning?

2017-07-30 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 30/07/17 11:26, Alessandro Rubini wrote: > And even if you are at a conference on the stage with your "opponent", > by attacking you usually shows you have no arguments. It's what our > most unsuccessful politicians do all the time. > Well, Brexit was all about negative and they "won". Not