On 21.06.2017 12:45, mray wrote:
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> I think treating them as second class could be OK:
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> 1. post on a free software platform
> 2. don't reply on twitter or facebook, just link to the original
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>
> -Robert
>
Following this whole thread I think I changed my mind:
We can't give in to th
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 09:14:17AM +0200, mray wrote:
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> On 21.06.2017 12:45, mray wrote:
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> >
> > I think treating them as second class could be OK:
> >
> > 1. post on a free software platform
> > 2. don't reply on twitter or facebook, just link to the original
> >
> >
> > -Robert
> >
# mray [2017-07-25 09:14 +0200]:
On 21.06.2017 12:45, mray wrote:
I think treating them as second class could be OK:
1. post on a free software platform
2. don't reply on twitter or facebook, just link to the original
Well, that's more or less exactly what the FSFE is doing at the moment,
exc
On Tuesday 25. July 2017 11.41.48 Max Mehl wrote:
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> I would love to live in a world where we could abolish all proprietary
> tools. But unfortunately the carefully dosed usage of some proprietary
> networks is important for us to fulfil our mission [1]. Especially
> Twitter is more or less the o
Hi,
> Personally, I'm rather irritated by the spread of Twitter as a
> replacement for basic communications.
I tend to agree with you, and it irritates me to no end when an organisation
asks me to contact them on Twitter. The FSFE doesn't do this: our main
contact points are email and phone.
But
# Paul Boddie [2017-07-25 12:58 +0200]:
On Tuesday 25. July 2017 11.41.48 Max Mehl wrote:
I would love to live in a world where we could abolish all proprietary
tools. But unfortunately the carefully dosed usage of some proprietary
networks is important for us to fulfil our mission [1]. Especia
On 25/07/17 14:19, Max Mehl wrote:
> # Paul Boddie [2017-07-25 12:58 +0200]:
>> On Tuesday 25. July 2017 11.41.48 Max Mehl wrote:
>>>
>>> I would love to live in a world where we could abolish all proprietary
>>> tools. But unfortunately the carefully dosed usage of some proprietary
>>> networks
On 24.07.2017 14:14, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 24/07/17 11:48, Xavi Drudis Ferran wrote:
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>> What I mean is maybe we _should_ debate if social media should or not
>> be part of our life (or which social media or whatever). And once
>> there's a position on that it'll be easier to decide whether
# Daniel Pocock [2017-07-25 14:37 +0200]:
What is the value of 1000 new followers though?
Are people actually switching to free software, or are the followers,
shares and likes more like monopoly money which is never converted into
anything tangible?
It's a huge potential. Imagine you're givin
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On 25/07/17 14:56, Max Mehl wrote:
> # Daniel Pocock [2017-07-25 14:37 +0200]:
>> What is the value of 1000 new followers though?
>>
>> Are people actually switching to free software, or are the followers,
>> shares and likes more like monopoly money which is never converted into
>> anything tang
On Tuesday 25. July 2017 14.56.55 Erik Albers wrote:
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> But still, this is not so special about "social media". It is the internet
> in general. And it also effects for example your email-exchange. There is
> a disturbing analysis by Benjamin Mako Hill who runs his own email-server
> but has to r
# Paul Boddie [2017-07-25 15:15 +0200]:
What the FSFE should probably be doing is helping people find alternative ways
of managing their communications.
While we currently don't have a concrete campaign covering that, the
FSFE is quite advanced in advertising Free Software social networks.
For
On 25.07.2017 15:15, Paul Boddie wrote:
>> Should we, however, take down our web-page for saving users from being
>> tracked by third-parties (e.g. via their cookies) while they are browsing
>> our web-pages?
>
> Are the FSFE Web pages serving up tracking cookies?
of course not. But many pages no
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everything they are achieving there.
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On 25.07.2017 14:56, Max Mehl wrote:
> # Daniel Pocock [2017-07-25 14:37 +0200]:
>> What is the value of 1000 new followers though?
>>
>> Are people actually switching to free software, or are the followers,
>> shares and likes more like monopoly money which is never converted into
>> anything ta
On 25.07.2017 21:44, mray wrote:
> Reaching people isn't the end goal. Just like market share isn't.
> We are about freedom. What if I asked FSFE to tweet its take on using
> twitter? Wouldn' the honest tweet be:
>
>"You should not use twitter
> as it is a walled garden and
> proprie
# mray [2017-07-25 22:02 +0200]:
On 25.07.2017 21:44, mray wrote:
Reaching people isn't the end goal. Just like market share isn't.
We are about freedom. What if I asked FSFE to tweet its take on using
twitter? Wouldn' the honest tweet be:
"You should not use twitter
as it is a walled ga
On 25.07.2017 22:22, Max Mehl wrote:
> # mray [2017-07-25 22:02 +0200]:
>> On 25.07.2017 21:44, mray wrote:
>>> Reaching people isn't the end goal. Just like market share isn't.
>>> We are about freedom. What if I asked FSFE to tweet its take on using
>>> twitter? Wouldn' the honest tweet be:
>>>
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 25/07/17 14:56, Max Mehl wrote:
> > # Daniel Pocock [2017-07-25 14:37 +0200]:
> >> What is the value of 1000 new followers though?
> >>
> >> Are people actually switching to free software, or are the followers,
> >> shares and like
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