Re: Fairphone lessons

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 17. May 2019 12.19.36 Johannes Zarl-Zierl wrote: > > While I think that warranties for electronics could and should be longer, I > think the comparison to household appliances is unfair. > > Mobile phones may undergo less physical stress than washing mashines in > absolute terms, but op

Re: Fairphone lessons

2019-05-17 Thread Johannes Zarl-Zierl
Am Donnerstag, 16. Mai 2019, 14:29:28 CEST schrieb Paul Boddie: > On Wednesday 15. May 2019 12.51.36 Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > > Am Dienstag 14 Mai 2019 13:24:28 schrieb Paul Boddie: > > > These are presumably the same apologists for phone manufacturers trying > > > to > > > cut warranty terms wh

Re: Fairphone lessons

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Boddie
On Wednesday 15. May 2019 12.51.36 Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > > Am Dienstag 14 Mai 2019 13:24:28 schrieb Paul Boddie: > > > > These are presumably the same apologists for phone manufacturers trying to > > cut warranty terms where I live: people who openly said that they bought a > > new phone eve

Re: Fairphone lessons

2019-05-16 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Hi Paul, Am Dienstag 14 Mai 2019 13:24:28 schrieb Paul Boddie: > I think my criticism is harsh, > > If we had more manufactures trying to go in the Fairphone direction, it > > would foster much more Free Software usages on mobile devices. It is fine > > to point out how they could do better, but

Re: Fairphone lessons (Re: Shiftphones details)

2019-05-15 Thread Carsten Agger
On 5/14/19 8:52 AM, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: When trying to get a product out of the doors, you face a large number of small and larger decisions. First of all, the product has to "work" for the expected usage. Fairphone 1 was good in this regard, but Fairphone 2 a bit less so. Backing up and

Re: Fairphone lessons (Re: Shiftphones details)

2019-05-14 Thread Paul Boddie
On Tuesday 14. May 2019 08.52.29 Bernhard E. Reiter wrote: > Am Freitag 10 Mai 2019 17:06:40 schrieb Paul Boddie: > > it surprises me that they have not managed to > > attract broader publicity. > > Shiftphones seem to focus on Germany (or German speaking companies). > It is a significant invest t