Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

Hi Mat, please don’t take this personnally: I don’t feel like discussing this in further details. Thanks, -- Bastien ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

Here is my position, stated as "logically" as possible. My premisses are these: A. FSFE discourages people to use FB because FB TOS are unfair. B. Trading the number of people you can reach out against the consistency of your behavior (aligning your moral with your discourse) is not a good

Re: FSFE financial transparency

Hi Daniel, > Maybe you could provide the detailed figures to the GA and the public > statements could provide some notices indicating which activities are > self supporting. In a way, a self-supporting activity is a bit like a > donor. How about if we work on this as part of the 2017 financial r

Re: FSFE financial transparency

On 14/08/17 15:04, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> It is already public in the report[1] on the fellowship elections. > > Yes, you may be able to find occasional references to it and numbers which > you may infer from other information given. > >> Then it will be much easier for fellows t

Re: FSFE financial transparency

Hi Daniel, > It is already public in the report[1] on the fellowship elections. Yes, you may be able to find occasional references to it and numbers which you may infer from other information given. > Then it will be much easier for fellows to understand if those are > subsidised by the fellowsh

Re: Making free games and profiting on it?

The "Steam" for this already exists: They are package managers. Although most package managers also have package downloaders inside, the user can still install packages from files he downloaded/got provided these files are in a format understandable by the package manager. Essentially, you can pr

Re: FSFE financial transparency

On 14/08/17 12:00, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> Is there a strong reason not to publish that? > > When we started reporting the number internally, the question was about > the benefit of reporting this with some feeling that publishing the (then > low) number of fellows would deter peop

Re: Making free games and profiting on it?

Hi Andreas, I agree that there ought to be a way and have spent much time, myself, searching for such a workable equation. Here is what I've come up with ... welcome to collaborate. Best, -Charles On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Hello F

Re: Making free games and profiting on it?

Hi Andreas, Some had success on free software by selling the executable of their application, as it is in itself a commodity for Windows and MacOSX users, may also work for GNU/Linux users too. You may also offer executable with some limited access to your application. Not sure it will turn

Re: Making free games and profiting on it?

I would like to correct a little: Free/libre software isn't not-copyrighted, in fact, the licenses depend on copyright to exist. So, all rights are reserved, regardless. However, it has a difference: It's not under the *default* copyright license. Also, I don't know which was this speech you tal

Re: Making free games and profiting on it?

On 08/14/2017 12:37 PM, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:04:44PM +0200, Giel van Schijndel wrote: > (...) > I stumbled in the past on people doing that kind of things on > Patreon... a non-free webservice, in that the software that runs the > website and platform is not free

Re: Making free games and profiting on it?

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:04:44PM +0200, Giel van Schijndel wrote: > On 14-08-17 10:18, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > Coming from a background in computer games, I was thinking really much > > about how to create free games and make money on it - to make it into > > a profession. First I thought abou

Re: Making free games and profiting on it?

On 14-08-17 10:18, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Coming from a background in computer games, I was thinking really much > about how to create free games and make money on it - to make it into > a profession. First I thought about if the game is free software then > it will no longer be a "commodity" in

Re: Free Software security vulnerabilities: Heartbleed and other case studies?

Hello, I think I have to add my 5 cents. There are commercial (ironically proprietary) products on the market which analyze the software and build a list of open source dependencies. Then, based on this list of open source dependencies, they build a list of vulnerabilities which might be presente

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

Hi Mat, I completely disagree. Knowing that FSFE is using Facebook provokes two reactions in me: one is my "gut feeling" ("guys??"), another one is the one I’ve already presented ("FSFE should play a role model"). Saying that "politics is not logical at all" does not make sense to me. And disca

Re: FSFE financial transparency

Hi Daniel, > Is there a strong reason not to publish that? When we started reporting the number internally, the question was about the benefit of reporting this with some feeling that publishing the (then low) number of fellows would deter people from joining. That was in 2005 though, and we have

Making free games and profiting on it?

Hello FSFE! I just joined the FSFE after having almost completely moved to using 100% free software, my laptop is running Parabola GNU/Linux-libre (probaby with a non-free BIOS) and my mobile phone is a Galaxy S3 running Replicant with F-Droid apps. Coming from a background in computer games

Re: GDPR

Greetings, I take your point Jonas about disapora possibly matching facebook on the default privacy settings. I'll take your word on that for this discussion because it may be more significant to consider which of the two (diaspora/facebook) could be predicted to change the quickest to respond to

Re: GDPR

Hi Jonas, Specifically, it seems to suggest to me that a fair number of proprietary platforms - facebook for example might contravene the 'Data protection by Design and by Default (Article 25)' that requires privacy settings to be set at a high level by default. As far as I remember, FB wants eve

Re: dual FSF and FSFE membership

> Hi Mat, > >> Given each org already has a charitable approach to subs leaving the >> choice to the individual may be the best strategy. > For the FSFE and FSF, this is clearly what we do. Which organisation you > support financially or with your volunteer time should depend on which > organisatio

Re: Free Software security vulnerabilities: Heartbleed and other case studies?

Thank you Bastien, this is interesting and helpful. Does anyone has interesting articles about recent vulnerabilities discovered in free software? Best, Hugo ↪ Bastien Guerry / juillet 26, 2017 15:50: Hi Hugo, Hugo Roy writes: Any case studies on how the world dealt to react quickly and up

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

Hi Bastien, > I believe even political points deserve to be based on logic > In fact, I’m *really* _really_ surprised so many people agree with using Facebook for spreading FLOSS values... guys???! >That’s my gut reaction. You have clearly abandoned your preference for a politics of logic h

Re: FSFE financial transparency

On 14/08/17 11:25, Jonas Oberg wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> I feel there is a bit of a gap between these two pages and it does not >> reveal how fellowship contributions relate to other revenue. > > That's surprising to me, because if you click down to 2016 as an example, > you will find the answer

Re: FSFE financial transparency

Hi Daniel, > I feel there is a bit of a gap between these two pages and it does not > reveal how fellowship contributions relate to other revenue. That's surprising to me, because if you click down to 2016 as an example, you will find the answer to your first question: > - what is the total sum

FSFE financial transparency

Hi all, I've been looking over the information about FSFE donors[1] and total revenues[2] I feel there is a bit of a gap between these two pages and it does not reveal how fellowship contributions relate to other revenue. The donors page says the top 5 donate over EUR 12,000 per year each and l