Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread J.B. Nicholson
dguth...@posteo.net wrote: Tails concerns itself with offensive attacks against Tor browser and making programs use Tor safely; its threat model does not concern (what would have to be quite advanced) attacks from the firmware. Software can be conveyed through Tor which would leverage an insecu

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread dguthrie
Hi Adonay, Tails concerns itself with offensive attacks against Tor browser and making programs use Tor safely; its threat model does not concern (what would have to be quite advanced) attacks from the firmware. (Furthermore, free software firmware can be buggy too, it should be noted, which i

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Problem is: The freedoms of the software are prerequise for security. This is problematic in Tails case because it has non-free parts inside a product that is provided by a project with goals to provide security and privacy. See: - [[http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2016/08/13/does-not-kill.html]]. -

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Christian Pietsch
Dear Adonay, dear list, I never intended to participate in this thread because I am not religious, but somebody was wrong on the Internet: On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 09:07:18AM -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > Please be careful with TAILS, they fail to comply with GNU FSDG. See > [[https://www

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Please be careful with TAILS, they fail to comply with GNU FSDG. See [[https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Tails]]. :) Nowadays, one can replace Tails with something more free/libre: Like Parabola. Additionally, I don't know if this is possile, but GuixSD might also be worth a try. --

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Theo Schmidt
Am 23.07.2017 um 09:03 schrieb Evaggelos Balaskas: Social media are now part of our life (I am not debating if they should or not), but diminish them to cat videos is a strong opinion. 90% of email is SPAM, should we stop using email? Lots of people have their email to a proprietary platform. Sho

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Mirko Boehm - FSFE
Hi, > On 23. Jul 2017, at 09:37, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > On 23/07/17 09:03, Evaggelos Balaskas wrote: >> Social media are now part of our life (I am not debating if they >> should or not), but diminish them to cat videos is a strong opinion. >> 90% of email is SPAM, should we stop using email?

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Evaggelos Balaskas
July 23, 2017 10:30 AM, "Daniel Pocock" wrote:Actually, I have been thinking very seriously about blocking all email from gmail.com You may have a perfectly good reason to do that, and perhaps you could also point them to a contact page on you site so that people have an alternative way to talk

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/07/17 09:03, Evaggelos Balaskas wrote: > Social media are now part of our life (I am not debating if they > should or not), but diminish them to cat videos is a strong opinion. > 90% of email is SPAM, should we stop using email? Lots of people have > their email to a proprietary platform. Sho

Re: Is it acceptable to use proprietary software (platforms) to promote software freedom?

2017-07-23 Thread Evaggelos Balaskas
Social media are now part of our life (I am not debating if they should or not), but diminish them to cat videos is a strong opinion. 90% of email is SPAM, should we stop using email? Lots of people have their email to a proprietary platform. Should we stop talk to them? Should we only talk to