Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNURadio Live SDR update request

2016-02-15 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hi Stephen, To add a few comments on persistence - the Live USB image doesn't come with persistence configured. Two ways to do this, one of them does NOT work on Ubuntu 14.04 (fixed on 15.04 as some forums claim): 1. create a casper-rw file on the fat32 boot partition, format as an ext-3 inte

[Discuss-gnuradio] non-diff QPSK symbol sync, improper alignemnt/errors using real msg

2016-02-17 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hello Folks, I am debugging a flowgraph of QPSK without diff encoding. The aim here is to tx messages between two N210's, as a starting point for a heterogeneous networking project. long story short, I am seeing an issue sending/receiving a real message within the same flow graph (just direct c

[Discuss-gnuradio] Polyphase Clock Sync, lost samples - grc3.7.9

2016-02-18 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hello, Noticed interesting behavior for the PPCS block - sending a short qpsk msg (30bytes or so), approximately 10byte at the end of the msg get lost. in comparison, only one byte gets lost with the Recovery MM. But maybe it is lost elsewhere. adding padding (zero or otherwise) to the end of

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] non-diff QPSK symbol sync, improper alignemnt/errors using real msg

2016-02-18 Thread Landsman, Arik
a separate thread once I poke a bit more. And any ideas are welcome of course... Thanks, Arik From: Richard Bell [richard.be...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 12:58 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] non

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Polyphase Clock Sync, lost samples - grc3.7.9

2016-02-18 Thread Landsman, Arik
eems a bit wasteful, this was just for debug. Arik From: trond...@trondeau.com [trond...@trondeau.com] on behalf of Tom Rondeau [t...@trondeau.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:40 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio]

[Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-12 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hello folks, I am trying to resolve the 90* ambiguity of costas for a QPSK receiver, and was hoping folks could weigh-in in case anyone had success with this in the past. yes, diff encoding works.. :) trying to make it work without though. Also, I had seen Tom R's example of his cor-and-sync

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-12 Thread Landsman, Arik
quick update - thinking about it a bit more thoroughly, the up-sampling approach I considered below won't likely correlate as well as picking a preamble such that its real portion is the same in both bpsk and qpsk. From: Landsman, Arik Sent: Sat

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-14 Thread Landsman, Arik
ation%20systems&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 8:51 AM To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Cc: Landsman, Arik Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk On Sun, 20

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] tx <-> rx transmission

2016-03-14 Thread Landsman, Arik
HI, mfsk is the digital implementation of FM and analytically very similar to mpsk. psk is spectrally more efficient though. QAM is not feasible in wireless transmission (undeterministic amplitude of Rx stream) and is typically used for wired channels (say, docsis for cable). So I would focus

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] tx <-> rx transmission

2016-03-14 Thread Landsman, Arik
P.S. - thread name is "costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk" ____ From: Landsman, Arik Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:49 PM To: przelew...@gmail.com Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] tx <-> rx transmission

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Lock onto QPSK signa

2016-03-19 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hi Henry, To add to Marcus's comments, there are two main methods in gnuradio for clock recovery of QPSK. in all cases you would need a costas loop block, and some way to recover symbol timing *before* costas (either a polyphase clock sync or an M&M). These are built into the psk demod block, a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-25 Thread Landsman, Arik
preamble. what do you generally use? (btw all of the debug above was with sps=2). I am told I've been loosing sleep over this.. in any case I'll keep trying but in the meanwhile if you had any comments I would deeply appreciate it. Many Thanks, Arik From: Landsman, Arik Sent

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-29 Thread Landsman, Arik
ut are labeled properly. Hopefully easy to follow. And thanks again! Arik From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:45 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-03-31 Thread Landsman, Arik
ot the weekend is my sweet spot.. Thanks, Arik From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 4:56 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-syn

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-02 Thread Landsman, Arik
ay be. I suppose you then pipe a portion of the stream in Rx_syncd.py into foo.txt to parse with octave? going to try it if I find setup_env.sh on my end. and once I can run Rx_syncd.py... ) Thanks, Arik ____ From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
il 03, 2016 8:49 AM To: Landsman, Arik; Tom Rondeau Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk) Hi Arik: First off, try the attached Rx_syncd_3.grc. I disabled the modulate vector bloc

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
other thread to keep the two topics somewhat separate. certainly will have a question or two on how you fine-tuned the modulated symbols to corr against. going to try the "octave method" next.. also will try disabling the added blocks. From:

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
and later reading the content into corr_est in the main flowgraph. Best Regards, Arik ____ From: Landsman, Arik Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 10:15 AM To: Andy Walls; Tom Rondeau Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: RE: Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hi Tom, Where is thrift.conf usually located?.. Thanks, Arik From: trond...@trondeau.com [trond...@trondeau.com] on behalf of Tom Rondeau [t...@trondeau.com] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 11:22 AM To: Andy Walls Cc: Landsman, Arik; discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
11:36 AM To: Tom Rondeau; Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk) Hmm. Maybe GRC trying to evaluate the block for the sake of values in other blocks is spawning

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
fair enough :) From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 1:01 PM To: Landsman, Arik; Tom Rondeau Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: RE: Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
ls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 8:11 PM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk Hi Arik: On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Landsman, Arik > wrote: Hi Andy, Still loo

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-04 Thread Landsman, Arik
you don't mind another question or two as I go along. Best Regards, Arik From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:59 AM To: Landsman, Arik Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costa

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-10 Thread Landsman, Arik
ble to create a python wrapper and a block i'll certainly start there. the big hurdle is the hand-tuning the corr_est block, which I'm going to contemplate a way to auto-cal it. Best Regards, Arik Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:23 PM To: L

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-17 Thread Landsman, Arik
ut), then exact placement can be calculated based on these parameters alone and some initial experimentation. i'll try experimenting, lets see if this holds :) Best Regards, Arik ________ From: Landsman, Arik Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:25 PM To: Andy Walls

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-17 Thread Landsman, Arik
python it into the Rx in a neat way. From: Landsman, Arik Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 7:44 PM To: Andy Walls Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; t...@trondeau.com Subject: RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk Hi Andy