[Discuss-gnuradio] Power Line Communications - GNURadio

2016-04-03 Thread Paul Creaser
I've just been placed in charge of project involving PLC (Narrowband Power line communication over DC in this case- See wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRIME_(PLC)), in particular PRIME. Unfortunately I know very little about the technology. Anyway I have download various documentation and I a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Power Line Communications - GNURadio

2016-04-03 Thread Paul Creaser
Just to indicate I am progressing with studies. The below link seems to be a reasonable tutorial for beginners with regards to OFDM. http://complextoreal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ofdm2.pdf -- View this message in context: http://gnuradio.4.n7.nabble.com/Power-Line-Communications-GNURadio

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Power Line Communications - GNURadio

2016-04-03 Thread Paul Creaser
With regards to OFDM I have one question. I have a 8 channel OFDM using 8PSK. To me a single symbol using 8PSK means 8 bits, hence one byte of data. Since I have 8 channels, that would mean 64 bytes. This would equate to a single OFDM symbol of 64 bytes? Going on further a payload of 16 OFDM symb

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hi Andy, Looks like the issue is connected to the .grc like you mentioned - without opening Rx_syncd_2.grc, the Rx_syncd.py you attached earlier runs fine. Just opening the Rx_syncd_2.grc, w/o ever running or generating a new .py, while attempting to run any other .grc gives the same error.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Power Line Communications - GNURadio

2016-04-03 Thread Ron Economos
It's all related by sample rate and IFFT size. For PRIME, it's a 250 kHz sample rate and an IFFT size of 512. Carrier spacing = sample rate / IFFT size = 250,000 / 512 = 488.28125 Hz OFDM symbol time = IFFT size / sample rate = 512 / 250,000 = 2.048 milliseconds. However, only 97 carriers ou

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
error still there in Rx_syncd_3.grc. Feels like a version or dependencies issue on the GRC side.. With the .py running, going to use Rx_syncd_2.grc for now as a reference to copy essential blocks to a working (earlier) version of Rx_syncd.grc. if this works I'll continue off of the other thr

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Unable to execute a flow with remote desktop on an RPi

2016-04-03 Thread Jean Luc
Thank you, Nate, I had missed that and after changing the option, it works fine now. JL On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Nate Temple wrote: > Hi Jean, > > Did you switch the "Generate Options" option in the properties of the > top_block from WX GUI to QT GUI ? > > - Nate > > > > > On Apr 2, 201

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hi Andy, So the issue is with the modulate vector block like you suggested. Disabling it alone is not enough, had to be removed altogether and GRC restarted. Only then the flowgraph runs ok. how did you menage to run it on your setup?.. different Thrift config? To this end, how would I go ab

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Andy Walls wrote: > > > Otherwise, you didn't drop a control port related block on the > > flowgraph did you? > > > Here is some good info on how GRNURadio's control port works at a high > level: > https://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/ControlPort > h

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hi Tom, Where is thrift.conf usually located?.. Thanks, Arik From: trond...@trondeau.com [trond...@trondeau.com] on behalf of Tom Rondeau [t...@trondeau.com] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 11:22 AM To: Andy Walls Cc: Landsman, Arik; discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subjec

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Landsman, Arik wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Where is thrift.conf usually located?.. > > Thanks, > Arik > In ~/.gnuradio/thrift.conf And interesting observation about having to remove Modulate Vector completely. That might be the same problem I'm experiencing. Strange

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Power Line Communications - GNURadio

2016-04-03 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Paul Creaser wrote: > With regards to OFDM I have one question. > > I have a 8 channel OFDM using 8PSK. To me a single symbol using 8PSK means > 8 > bits, hence one byte of data. Since I have 8 channels, that would mean 64 > bytes. This would equate to a single OFD

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Andy Walls
Hmm. Maybe GRC trying to evaluate the block for the sake of values in other blocks is spawning and keeping the mini flowgraph open. Weird. On April 3, 2016 11:31:02 AM EDT, Tom Rondeau wrote: >On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Landsman, Arik > >wrote: > >> Hi Tom, >> >> Where is thrift.conf usu

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
setting port=0 in thrift.conf did the trick, GRC now runs all flowgraphs as expected. Andy, still at odds on how you got yours to work.. did you modify thrift.conf in any way? From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 1

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Andy Walls
Well, on that machine (Fedora 20) I never built thrift. No problem. ;) On April 3, 2016 12:51:31 PM EDT, "Landsman, Arik" wrote: >setting port=0 in thrift.conf did the trick, GRC now runs all >flowgraphs as expected. > >Andy, still at odds on how you got yours to work.. did you modify >thrift.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Unable to execute a flow with remote desktop on an RPi

2016-04-03 Thread martijn
JL, It seems to me that you inserted a QTgui_waterfall in a WXgui top block.. These cannot be mixed and look for the WX equivalent of the same thing! Martijn > On 03 Apr 2016, at 05:52, Jean Luc wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I've just joined the list and I'm trying to execute a flow in GRC on

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk)

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
fair enough :) From: Andy Walls [a...@silverblocksystems.net] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 1:01 PM To: Landsman, Arik; Tom Rondeau Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: RE: Debugging ControlPort/Thrift problem (Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and co

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-03 Thread Landsman, Arik
Hi Andy, So now that the Thrift issue is resolved (separate thread, thank you!), had a few follow up questions on the actual corr_est implementation and placement of tags: >> ./Rx_syncd.py | grep -v volk | sed -e 's/(//g' -e 's/)//g' > foo.txt this doesn't want to port the samples; it does how

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] costas ambiguity and correlate-and-sync block in qpsk

2016-04-03 Thread Andy Walls
On Sun, 2016-04-03 at 20:24 +, Landsman, Arik wrote: > Hi Andy, > > So now that the Thrift issue is resolved (separate thread, thank you! > ), had a few follow up questions on the actual corr_est implementation > and placement of tags: > > >> ./Rx_syncd.py | grep -v volk | sed -e 's/(//g' -

[Discuss-gnuradio] Fwd: c++ flowgraph

2016-04-03 Thread Havard
Dear List I wonder if there is possible and if so, does anyone have a woring example of creating a flowgrpaph in C++ ? I need to create and compile a flowgprah that could be used stand alone and not be depended on python to run.. I have the version 3.7.2 Best regards Havard Austad __

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Fwd: c++ flowgraph

2016-04-03 Thread Jan Krämer
Hi, yes you can do that. But just not with GRC so you would have to code your flowgraph "by hand". But you have to be aware that this also requires a tiny bit more work with some of the blocks as they are embedded in python hierarchical blocks (polyphase filterbank based blocks for example). Not 1

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] creating a new list for announcements?

2016-04-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/04/16 16:55, martijn wrote: > So a specific list for HAM Radio use of gnuradio might be an interesting > option too. > Creating other lists, like gnuradio-hams, would be a good idea too. The announce list is the most critical one, if people ever find they don't have time for any of the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Fwd: c++ flowgraph

2016-04-03 Thread Havard
Hi and thanks for the answer. I understand that this means "hand coding", but that is not a problem.. Does anyone have a small working example of C++ flowgraph? or a link pointing at such thing? Best Havard Den 2016-04-04 08:48, skrev Jan Krämer: Hi, yes you can do that. But just not with G