Re: FLL Band-Edge

2021-01-15 Thread Marcus Müller
Hard questions! On 15.01.21 23:40, Kristoff wrote: > Doesn't a PLL also track the frequency of the source (in addition to its > phase)? * PLL: Able to *correct* small frequency errors: yes, but a frequency error in a first-order phase control loop will pose a constant offset error, thus still lea

Re: FLL Band-Edge

2021-01-15 Thread Kristoff
Hi Marc, Jeff, all Thanks for your reply. (Also thanks to everybody who replied off-list.) Hum.. looks like a good mental overview of all the blocks useful for PSK would be good start for myself. I did know about the "PLL Carrier-tracking block", but I had not yet heard of this "FLL band-

Re: FLL Band-Edge

2021-01-15 Thread Marcus Müller
Pretty much. The FLL band edge system in GNU Radio does the following: 1. have a filter that extracts the energy "around the place where the upper edge of where the signal is supposed to be", and around the lower edge 2. compares energies in both 3. multiplies the signal with e^jft, while adjusti

Re: FLL Band-Edge

2021-01-14 Thread Jeff Long
I think the general idea is that some signals have no carrier that a PLL could lock onto. The FLL Band-Edge centers a signal using the shape of a specific signal (the matched filter being used). On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 6:55 PM Kristoff wrote: > Hi all, > > > I have been reading some more on PSK