Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ffast-math

2019-09-03 Thread Chris Kuethe
To be fair, I was running on a 1GHz Cortex-A8, that only had vfp3 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIP_(computer)#CHIP). I fully expect that you're going to need to spend some time going through all the different compiler flags (-Ofast, -march, -mcpu, -mtune, -ffast-math, -fthis-that-and-the-other)

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ffast-math

2019-09-03 Thread Albin Stigö
In my experience VOLK runs about 10% faster on Raspberry Pi 4 with -ffast-math, depending on the flowgraph you might get more. Three kernels had some minor problems with precision, but I think they can be fixed so all will pass... The fun thing about these embedded platforms is that the possibiliti

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ffast-math

2019-09-03 Thread Chris Kuethe
Yep, on some processors with some workloads it really makes a huge difference. As others have commented, there may be significant trade-offs with regard to numerical behaviro. Some of my observations: dump1090 loses accuracy below the 7th digit when calculating precision, but consumes 10% less pow

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ffast-math

2019-09-03 Thread Albin Stigö
Interesting! I'm experimenting with this right now. NEON on armv7 is not always IEEE754 compliant by the way. --Albin On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 5:28 PM Müller, Marcus (CEL) wrote: > > -ffast-math is allowed to reorder calculations, e.g. it can do > a*f + b*f + c*f as (a+b+c)*f (or vice versa) >

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ffast-math

2019-09-02 Thread CEL
-ffast-math is allowed to reorder calculations, e.g. it can do a*f + b*f + c*f as (a+b+c)*f (or vice versa) which of course isn't necessarily the same result, and can lead to numerical instability. The problem is really that for some kernels, things like zero-signage and NaN / Inf handling / r

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ffast-math

2019-09-02 Thread Albin Stigö
ffast-math disables signed zero by design I think... I'm particularly interested in problems of numeric stability and loss of dynamic range. --Albin On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 15:27 Johannes Demel wrote: > Hi Albin, > > one of my students reported a little oddity about `-ffast-math`. Assume > you w

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ffast-math

2019-09-02 Thread Johannes Demel
Hi Albin, one of my students reported a little oddity about `-ffast-math`. Assume you want to set a float to -0, i.e. set the sign bit only. In this case `-ffast-math` seems to remove the sign bit. In VOLK this might be an issue with `_mm256_conjugate_ps` in `include/volk/volk_avx_intrinsics.h