Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-26 Thread Marcus Müller
When tuning, the WBX/SBX/UBX LO synthesizers always reconstruct the same phase for a given frequency. With the WBX, that only works with the discussed +- ambiguity. So, this only happens when you re-tune. Estimate whether you're off by 180° after every tune. Calibrate the remaining inter-channel p

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-24 Thread Justyn
You're right: this isn't a show stopper, and in the context of this not running in real time for my purposes anyway, I don't think it's a big deal. In the interest of completeness, when is this ambiguity introduced? On power up, or on some/any UHD call? Basically, when should I be aware and c

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-24 Thread Marcus Müller
on the N210: SBX. UBX on the N210 does have that ambiguity (it doesn't on X3x0). re MIMO: well, ambiguities aren't nice, but as a matter of fact, any communication receiver needs to have a timing / phase recovery, be it a MIMO receiver or not; typically, you'd try both options (remember, 180° is j

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-24 Thread Justyn Bell
As little comms knowledge as I have, I have even less about MIMO. However, I'm having a hard time understanding how the WBX boards would even be considered for any MIMO application when there could be a random 180 degree phase offset. Is there another daughtercard in which this little quirk is

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-24 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 02/24/2016 12:24 AM, Justyn wrote: Forgive me because I'm a software engineer with little theoretical comms experience, but I'm having a difficult time understanding what a 180 phase shift at RF would mean for my baseband signal. If anything. A phase shift at RF comes out as a phase-shift at

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-23 Thread Justyn
Forgive me because I'm a software engineer with little theoretical comms experience, but I'm having a difficult time understanding what a 180 phase shift at RF would mean for my baseband signal. If anything. Now the issue is that with GRC, there's no way to use timed-commands directly, so you

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-23 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 02/23/2016 11:34 PM, Justyn wrote: Makes sense. If I can ask a follow up here: 1) If I instead use 2 USRPs connected via an external reference clock and an Ethernet switch for receiving data, will they be phase-aligned? If I understand what's going on in the context of the ref clock, I t

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] WBX Dual Receiver

2016-02-23 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 02/23/2016 11:22 PM, Justyn wrote: Hello, I'm experimenting with the MIMO capabilities of the N210s with WBX daughter cards and seeing how far I can get before I need the MIMO breakout cable or GPSDO. One of the first things I'd like to see is if both receivers on the WBX daughter card c