Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] error meaning: not connected internally

2010-04-06 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Makmur Hidayat wrote: > Dear all, > > I try to make simulation for qam loopback. But there is an error: > RuntimeError: hierarchical block 'qam8_demod' input 0 is not connected > internally > > What is the error mean? > > Thank you for your help > Makmur The QAM re

[Discuss-gnuradio] error meaning: not connected internally

2010-04-06 Thread Makmur Hidayat
Dear all, I try to make simulation for qam loopback. But there is an error: RuntimeError: hierarchical block 'qam8_demod' input 0 is not connected internally What is the error mean? Thank you for your help Makmur File "/home/makmur/sim_qam_loopback.py", line 150, in tb.Run(True) File "/u

[Discuss-gnuradio] Question regarding gr_mpsk_receiver_cc::mm_error_tracking

2010-04-06 Thread Ian Holland
Hi All I am trying to understand how the optimised modified Mueller and Muller algorithm is implemented in GNU Radio. I had a look at the method gr_mpsk_reciever_cc::mm_error_tracking, to see how this is done. As far as I can tell, lines 242-245 are intended to implement equation (8) of the refer

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 04/06/2010 09:44 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> Which part of the Linux issue... sustained throughput or latency? I >> wouldn't be surprised to find that latency hasn't >> improved substantially because it's not a priority for server software. >> Even VoIP applications are not concerned >> about

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread John Gilmore
> Which part of the Linux issue... sustained throughput or latency? I wouldn't > be surprised to find that latency hasn't > improved substantially because it's not a priority for server software. Even > VoIP applications are not concerned > about a 1 msec improvement... whereas that makes or br

[Discuss-gnuradio] Basic questions about MIMO on USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread senlin peng
Hi all, I have several basic questions on about build a MIMO system with two USRP2s. I have my master board connect with the computer and the external clock. The slave board is connected to the master by the MIMO cable. I am working C++ and I have the SISO working now. My questions are as follows

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread George Nychis
Hi Veljko, > What I got from your paper is that the matched filter approach for > fast packet detection would not work in an OFDM setting. What about > fast ACK generation? Would it require an IFFT implementation on the > USRP? Would it help much? > It's a good question, and something I haven't

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread George Nychis
PS. if you haven't seen, SORA is able to interoperate with 802.11g, which is impressive. It meets all of the timing requirements. However, it does not come with the exact ease of programming that we're familiar with. They do have to push the use of SSE and tradeoff a lot of computation for memo

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread George Nychis
> > Did you see my previous post about the accelerator PCIe card? To some > extent the Microsoft approach is what we're > doing. But we want to stay compatible with USRP2 hardware so we connect > GbE to the accelerator card; non MAC-related > dataflow is PCIe from there. Buffering required to st

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread George Nychis
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Jeff Brower wrote: > Philip- > > > On 04/06/2010 04:19 PM, George Nychis wrote: > >> Jeff, I definitely agree that buffering also adds significant latency. > How > >> much of the MAC can you get around? I just think that, there are a > number > >> of people who w

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Jeff Brower
Charles- >> I would tend to blame Linux and buffering more than GbE itself (MAC + PHY).   >> Here is an interesting doc where the >> researchers were asking similar questions: >> >>  http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/rich/atlas/docs/atlas_net_note_draft5.pdf >> >> I'm not sure yet how much buffering is d

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Jeff Brower
Philip- > On 04/06/2010 04:19 PM, George Nychis wrote: >> Jeff, I definitely agree that buffering also adds significant latency. How >> much of the MAC can you get around? I just think that, there are a number >> of people who want the flexibility of the SDR, but want to do MAC research, >> and

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Jeff Brower
George- > Jeff, I definitely agree that buffering also adds significant latency. How > much of the MAC can you get around? I just think that, there are a number > of people who want the flexibility of the SDR, but want to do MAC research, > and current common SDR architecture is just not good en

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Veljko Pejovic
Hi George, 2010/4/6 George Nychis : > Jeff, I definitely agree that buffering also adds significant latency.  How > much of the MAC can you get around?  I just think that, there are a number > of people who want the flexibility of the SDR, but want to do MAC research, > and current common SDR arch

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Philip Balister
On 04/06/2010 04:19 PM, George Nychis wrote: Jeff, I definitely agree that buffering also adds significant latency. How much of the MAC can you get around? I just think that, there are a number of people who want the flexibility of the SDR, but want to do MAC research, and current common SDR ar

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: interfacing a DSP array card to USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Matt Ettus
On 03/30/2010 11:48 AM, Jeff Brower wrote: Matt- We're working on a project at Signalogic to interface one of our DSP array PCIe cards to the USRP2. This would provide a way for one or more TI DSPs to "insert" into the data flow and run C/C++ code for low-latency and/or other high performance a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread George Nychis
Jeff, I definitely agree that buffering also adds significant latency. How much of the MAC can you get around? I just think that, there are a number of people who want the flexibility of the SDR, but want to do MAC research, and current common SDR architecture is just not good enough. We need lo

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Charles Irick
> I would tend to blame Linux and buffering more than GbE itself (MAC + PHY).   > Here is an interesting doc where the > researchers were asking similar questions: > >  http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/rich/atlas/docs/atlas_net_note_draft5.pdf > > I'm not sure yet how much buffering is done in the USRP2

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Veljko Pejovic
Two independent PC+USRP nodes. All the ACK related logic was implemented at the Python layer. Another thing that I tried was to connect the two nodes via Ethernet (I have two Ethernet NICs in each of the PCs) and then use USRPs for data and Ethernet for ACKs. I still couldn't get good results, alt

[Discuss-gnuradio] Fw: benchmark_rx/tx.py

2010-04-06 Thread Merve Deniz
 I'm trying to make DBPSK modulation with costas alfa set to 0.05 and gain mu set to 0.001. I got all of trues but I could not understand where can I see the received packages ( 1 or 0 ). And in benchmark_tx code there is an option  " --from-file " to specify the file but i could not decide h

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Jeff Brower
Veljko- > I tried with a stop-and-wait ARQ and two USRP2s with XCVR2450s, but > the delay was too long and inconsistent. I can't remember the exact > figures, but definitely up to milliseconds. Do you mean two USRP2s back-to-back? Or both connected to motherboard ports? -Jeff > 2010/4/6 George

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Questions on DDC in gr-sounder project

2010-04-06 Thread Yan Nie
Thank you so much Johnathan. Is that means the signal is converted before ADC? I'm quite confused about how the FPGA configuration connect with host code. The FPGA bitstream is loaded by usrp.source_c or usrp.source_s. Where is the FPGA bitstream loaded into? How does the usrp source class load

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Veljko Pejovic
I tried with a stop-and-wait ARQ and two USRP2s with XCVR2450s, but the delay was too long and inconsistent. I can't remember the exact figures, but definitely up to milliseconds. Veljko 2010/4/6 George Nychis : > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Charles Irick wrote: >> >> Thanks for the rep

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Jeff Brower
George- >> Thanks for the reply George. I'm still looking for a little more >> information on this topic. >> >> - What is PMT > > http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/1/TypePMT > >> - Why was m-block removed > > http://osdir.com/ml/discuss-gnuradio-gnu/2010-01/msg00066.html > >> - Has anyone measured

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Questions on DDC in gr-sounder project

2010-04-06 Thread Johnathan Corgan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 08:19, Yan Nie wrote: > I'm trying to understand how Digital Down Conversion Implemented in > gr-sounder project. The DDC needs to be implemented in FPGA, but there isn't > any module in FPGA configuration implementing DDC. How does the receiver in > gr-sounder implement Di

[Discuss-gnuradio] Questions on DDC in gr-sounder project

2010-04-06 Thread Yan Nie
Dear all, I'm trying to understand how Digital Down Conversion Implemented in gr-sounder project. The DDC needs to be implemented in FPGA, but there isn't any module in FPGA configuration implementing DDC. How does the receiver in gr-sounder implement Digital Down Conversion? Thanks a lot in

[Discuss-gnuradio] minimum number of packets usrp can receive?

2010-04-06 Thread Omer Ihsan
i am using the RFX-2400 with usrp-1 *i would like to know what is the minimum amount of data/ minimum number of packets that the usrp can receive*. i used the benchmark_rx file and changed the default packet size to 10 bytes. by using the --from-file option and sending only 1 packet (10 bytes) of

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread George Nychis
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Charles Irick wrote: > Thanks for the reply George. I'm still looking for a little more > information on this topic. > > - What is PMT > http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/1/TypePMT > - Why was m-block removed > http://osdir.com/ml/discuss-gnuradio-gnu/2010-01/m

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] MAC layer development and USRP2

2010-04-06 Thread Charles Irick
Thanks for the reply George. I'm still looking for a little more information on this topic. - What is PMT - Why was m-block removed - Has anyone measured latency with the USRP2 and GigE - Is GigE alone not capable of handling MAC turnaround times or is software to blame for this - Is the scheduler

[Discuss-gnuradio] Scanning whole spectrum using TVRX

2010-04-06 Thread Anand Padmanabha Iyer
Dear All, I have a TVRX board, and am trying to do some experiments with it. My requirement is to scan the entire spectrum (50MHz - 860MHz), and dump the samples for processing using MATLAB. At a time, I am sensing 250KHz of spectrum (decimation 256), and I am collecting 10,000 samples (40 ms sens

[Discuss-gnuradio] Combining of programs

2010-04-06 Thread abbasi9999
Hi all, I'm trying to combine both sensing program (usrp_spectrum_sense.py) and transmitting program, the initialization is done using the classes usrp_options, generic_usrp, usrp_receive_path, receive_path But when i try to pass the usrp_source_c object to spectrum sensing program to set its