Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] extra qualification errors in gcc 4.1.0

2006-04-05 Thread Erik Tollerud
I guess the gr_clock_recovery_mm_cc.h was the only one - I know I got 3 or 4 other places on an earlier build, but I guess they've been cleaned up in the current one. I haven't checked the packages I don't use, though (gr-audio-portaudio, gr-comedi, gr-mc4020, gr-audio-oss, or gr-audio-jack) I d

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-05 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thursday 06 April 2006 15:11, Marcus Leech wrote: > > Also, I think getting 32.768 MHz from 4Mhz with a PLL would be pretty > > difficult (if not impossible) > > Given that you haven't looked into the PLLs on the FPGA, it's rather too > early > to conclude that you couldn't synthesize 32.768Mh

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-05 Thread Marcus Leech
Farnell sell 32.768 MHz crystals (They're not what you'd call cheap though - AU$17). Hmm they have 16.384 MHz ones for $12.81. Still not cheap.. Also, I think getting 32.768 MHz from 4Mhz with a PLL would be pretty difficult (if not impossible) Given that you haven't looked into the PLLs

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-05 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thursday 06 April 2006 13:14, Martin Dvh wrote: > Why don't you use the usrp to generate your 16.384 or 32.768 MHz refclock. > Most daugterboards (except the tvrx) use this feature (They all use a 4Mhz > refclock on io pin 0. The only difference with your design is that you need > another freque

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dvh
David Bengtson wrote: > After far to long, I've updated the information on the Gnu Radio GPS > board. I've finished a preliminary schematic, and I'd appreciate any > comments that anyone might have. Why don't you use the usrp to generate your 16.384 or 32.768 MHz refclock. Most daugterboards (excep

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM demodulation problem / example video

2006-04-05 Thread Achilleas Anastasopoulos
Jens, I would like to elaborate on some of your comments. I am using the following notation: N fft size (2048) G guard interval (504) v0 fractional frequency offset f0=v0 T absolute frequency offset tau0 fractional time offset t0=tau0 T absolute timne offset To sum up: Frequency offset result

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-05 Thread Lee Patton
Is there an inherent problem with using the DBS Rx? I think this discussion started once, but I can't find it in the archives. Has any one successfully captured GPS and processed out position information using GNU Radio and USRP? I remember Krys Kamieniecki was working on it, but last I remem

[Discuss-gnuradio] grGPS Preliminary Schematic

2006-04-05 Thread David Bengtson
After far to long, I've updated the information on the Gnu Radio GPS board. I've finished a preliminary schematic, and I'd appreciate any comments that anyone might have. Page: http://www.keystoneradio.com/grGPS.html Schematic http://www.keystoneradio.com/pdfs/Schematic_1.pdf Thanks Dave

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bandwidth Across USB

2006-04-05 Thread Lee Patton
John - I must have been drunk when I wrote those equations. I wrote 64e10 when I meant 64e6, and put the D in a weird place. Sorry for any confusion. This makes more sense: (16 bit/sample)*(64e6/D sample/sec)*(1/2^23 MB/bit) <= 32 MB/sec therefore, for real D >= 16*64e6/(32*2^23) = 3.81 --> D

[Discuss-gnuradio] Stereo FM mo

2006-04-05 Thread Robert McGwier
The FM stereo simple block, wfm_rcv_pll.py, has been modified to recover the carrier using gr_pll_carriertracking. I noticed an immediate drop in the hiss here. We probably need to do some gain management but that can wait until I have the remainder of the modifications in line and the stere

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bandwidth Across USB

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 02:30:30PM -0700, jjw wrote: > > I know this is probably an extremely stupid question, but I wanted to get > some verification. I've noticed that the minimum decimation rate you can > use in all of the sample programs is 4 (giving you an effective sampling > rate of 16 MHz

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] State of HDTV 2

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 05:27:51PM -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 10:16 -0700, Eric Blossom wrote: > > > I moved it all to a new module, gr-atsc in CVS. > > > > It's already autoconfiscated and ready to go. There's a file, > > README.signal_flow in the top level directory t

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bandwidth Across USB

2006-04-05 Thread Lee Patton
Hi John - 16/D bits/sample x 64e10 samples/sec x 1 B/8 bits x 1 MB / 2^20 B <= 32 MB/sec Therefore, D >= 16*64e10 /(32*8*2^20) = 3.814 -> 4 So, if you want to transmit twice as many sample across the bus... D > = 2*16*64e10 /(32*8*2^20) = 7.63 -> 8 ...you have to halve your sampling frequency

[Discuss-gnuradio] Bandwidth Across USB

2006-04-05 Thread jjw
I know this is probably an extremely stupid question, but I wanted to get some verification. I've noticed that the minimum decimation rate you can use in all of the sample programs is 4 (giving you an effective sampling rate of 16 MHz). If you are transmitting 1 real channel of data (16 bits) at

[Discuss-gnuradio] State of HDTV 2

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Swiger
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 10:16 -0700, Eric Blossom wrote: > I moved it all to a new module, gr-atsc in CVS. > > It's already autoconfiscated and ready to go. There's a file, > README.signal_flow in the top level directory that tells how the old > code was connected together. There are loopback tes

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] FM demodulation of a real signal

2006-04-05 Thread Robert McGwier
It will not be possible to recover the signal if the real signal is at zero IF (and predetection) so we will assume that it is not at zero. The simplest possible FM detector is a zero crossing counter. That is, you output a signal that is proportional to the distance between zero crossings.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] extra qualification errors in gcc 4.1.0

2006-04-05 Thread Robert McGwier
Can you say a dozen times: "Bob is not a C++ programmer" "Bob is not a C++ programmer" . . . . . Ooopsy. Basically every function I have written or had a hand in. MEA CULPA. Bob Eric Blossom wrote: On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 12:54:37PM -0700, Erik Tollerud wrote: I'm building on FC4 w

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] extra qualification errors in gcc 4.1.0

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0700, Eric Blossom wrote: > On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 12:54:37PM -0700, Erik Tollerud wrote: > > I'm building on FC4 with GCC 4.1.0, and I get a bunch of "extra > > qualification" errors in the C++ code where static functions are > > declared inside a class with th

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] extra qualification errors in gcc 4.1.0

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 12:54:37PM -0700, Erik Tollerud wrote: > I'm building on FC4 with GCC 4.1.0, and I get a bunch of "extra > qualification" errors in the C++ code where static functions are > declared inside a class with the class name prefixed... for example, > from gnuradio-core/src/lib/gen

[Discuss-gnuradio] extra qualification errors in gcc 4.1.0

2006-04-05 Thread Erik Tollerud
I'm building on FC4 with GCC 4.1.0, and I get a bunch of "extra qualification" errors in the C++ code where static functions are declared inside a class with the class name prefixed... for example, from gnuradio-core/src/lib/general/gr_clock_recovery_mm_cc.h, there's a class that looks like: class

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM demodulation problem / example video

2006-04-05 Thread Robert McGwier
Yes. Here is what you are missing: Let us concentrate (as does your nice animated gif) on one channel in the OFDM. Let us suppose you have a variable delay into the signal after its onset. This will happen with probability one because your clock and the transmitter clock will not be the sam

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] new tarballs

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 06:12:06PM +0200, Luis Simoes wrote: > Hi all, > > I tried to use benchmark_gmsk_rx.py and i noticed that my system does not > have > all the usrp stuff receive_path.py uses. So I install the usrp-011 and the > gr-usrp-0.7 package and uninstall the previous ones (usrp-0.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] FM demodulation of a real signal

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 03:44:59PM +0200, Matteo Campanella wrote: > Hello, I am quite stuck at a problem, that is, how to demodulate a FM > signal that is NOT in complex form using existing gnuradio blocks. The > quadrature demodulator works only with complex input; I have tried to > build an anal

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Reinstalling gnuradio

2006-04-05 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 06:10:11AM -0700, seph 004 wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to reinstall the gnuradio files from cvs. I get all the files and > start the ./bootstrap then ./configure procedure. When it comes to executing > 'make' however, it keeps breaking down with the following error: >

[Discuss-gnuradio] Can USRP implement GPS trigger

2006-04-05 Thread sunflower
Can USRP implement GPS trigger from GPS one second pulse? I want to synchronize USRP with my transmitter by the falling edge of GPS one second pulse. Does anybody know how to do this? Thanks in advance. Jing ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gn

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM demodulation problem / example video

2006-04-05 Thread Jens Elsner
> Thank you very much for the reference. This was a very nice link to > Mostofi's work. The following paper is also pertinent to Jen's thinking > on the guard interval offset being irrelevant. It is not of course: > > *Y. Mostofi*, D. Cox and A. Bahai, "Effect of Timing Synchronization > Er

[Discuss-gnuradio] new tarballs

2006-04-05 Thread Luis Simoes
Hi all, I tried to use benchmark_gmsk_rx.py and i noticed that my system does not have all the usrp stuff receive_path.py uses. So I install the usrp-011 and the gr-usrp-0.7 package and uninstall the previous ones (usrp-0.8 and gr-usrp-0.5). After finishing (I am still running on gnuradio-cor 2

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM demodulation problem / example video

2006-04-05 Thread Jens Elsner
Thanks for the reply! I'm really struggeling here... > Yes, I think this is a critical step. small letters are time domain and > capital letters are frequency domain. > > x(n) ---> X(k) > FFT > > x(n-n') -> e^(j*2*pi*n'*k/N) * X(k) > FFT > > for one OFDM sy

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] FM demodulation of a real signal

2006-04-05 Thread Matteo Campanella
I have tried building the analytic by hilbert, but I think that, because of the many near DC components of the signal, I do not get a nice quadrature demod output...I will try with a pll, thanks for the suggestion! MC > Matteo Campanella wrote: >> Hello, I am quite stuck at a problem, that is, ho

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OFDM demodulation problem / example video

2006-04-05 Thread Jens Elsner
Achilleas, my estimate is based on frequency domain correlation. Just count the offset of the maximum (o). Then estimate the fractional offset (fo) by taking the value left (l) and right (r) of the maximum and calculate fo = (r-l)/(r+l). To compensate substract the resulting frequency offset (o+f

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] FM demodulation of a real signal

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dvh
Matteo Campanella wrote: > Hello, I am quite stuck at a problem, that is, how to demodulate a FM > signal that is NOT in complex form using existing gnuradio blocks. The > quadrature demodulator works only with complex input; I have tried to > build an analytic signal out of my real one, but the re

[Discuss-gnuradio] FM demodulation of a real signal

2006-04-05 Thread Matteo Campanella
Hello, I am quite stuck at a problem, that is, how to demodulate a FM signal that is NOT in complex form using existing gnuradio blocks. The quadrature demodulator works only with complex input; I have tried to build an analytic signal out of my real one, but the result of the demodulation is then

[Discuss-gnuradio] Re: Reinstalling gnuradio

2006-04-05 Thread Patrick Strasser
seph 004 wrote: Hi I'm trying to reinstall the gnuradio files from cvs. I get all the files and start the ./bootstrap then ./configure procedure. When it comes to executing 'make' however, it keeps breaking down with the following error: make[4]: Entering directory `/home/lance/gr-build/gnu

[Discuss-gnuradio] Reinstalling gnuradio

2006-04-05 Thread seph 004
Hi I'm trying to reinstall the gnuradio files from cvs. I get all the files and start the ./bootstrap then ./configure procedure. When it comes to executing 'make' however, it keeps breaking down with the following error: make[4]: Entering directory `/home/lance/gr-build/gnuradio-core/src/lib/swi