[lopsa-discuss] Room monitors

2010-05-24 Thread Jeremy Charles
I am wondering if anyone has actual experience with a solution that is more easily scalable but not amazingly expensive compared to what I'm doing now... I've been using the APC Netbotz 355 to monitor our IDFs for temperature and motion. I like that unit because it is pretty customizable w.r.t.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] IT Policy Discuss

2010-05-24 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Robert Hajime Lanning wrote: > Education only goes so far. You still need the policy. In fact the two > go hand in hand. There should be a policy, with the education on why > the policy exists and how to follow the policy. > > In the end, you will need something to enforce. You always end up

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-24 Thread Christophe Kalt
On 2010-05-22, Joe McDonagh wrote: > On 05/22/2010 11:45 AM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > > Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between > those > > guys, or even one including commercial products? > I've had my own home-grown tool for so long that I haven't looked at any of the

Re: [lopsa-discuss] IT Policy Discuss

2010-05-24 Thread Brian Mathis
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > Robert Hajime Lanning wrote: > >> Education only goes so far.  You still need the policy.  In fact the two >> go hand in hand.  There should be a policy, with the education on why >> the policy exists and how to follow the policy. >> >> In the

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-24 Thread Eric Eisenhart
On May 24, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Christophe Kalt wrote: > On 2010-05-22, Joe McDonagh wrote: > On 05/22/2010 11:45 AM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > [...] > This is why I chose puppet. Puppet's DSL is made of awesome. > > Ah yes, talk about something that makes no sense to me. Why don't > these tool just

Re: [lopsa-discuss] IT Policy Discuss

2010-05-24 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
Brian Mathis wrote: > Providing reasoning and explanation is a good thing, but you also need > to be careful of getting into a discussion or debate. When conveying > the policies, people need to know that these are the policies, here's > why, and that's how it is. You are providing reasoning to g

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-24 Thread Atom Powers
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Joe McDonagh wrote: > > The only thing I can think of limitations in puppet that people > frequently encounter is inter-node dependencies. I'm interested to see > what other limitations you ran into ... I haven't tried puppet in over a year, but when I was evaluat