Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library

Markus Neteler ha scritto: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Ari Jolma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > The second thing would be to have a free OSGeo map symbol set, which > the map description file would refer to and the software use when > creating the ma

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Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) kirjoitti: One addition to what Chris points out, to complicate things :-), SVG vector symbols can also be used inside an SLD document (for a Mark). To be even more precise, we are really talking about the Symbology Encoding (SE) spec here. SLD as of version 1.1 on

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One addition to what Chris points out, to complicate things :-), SVG vector symbols can also be used inside an SLD document (for a Mark). To be even more precise, we are really talking about the Symbology Encoding (SE) spec here. SLD as of version 1.1 only deals with the integration of symbolo

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 06:53:19PM +0300, Ari Jolma wrote: > Frank Warmerdam kirjoitti: > > > >In my opinion we would be better off starting with a widely accepted > >standard like SLD as a basis of a feature styling standard > > I'm right now looking at SVG. It is a full graphics description > l

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Frank Warmerdam kirjoitti: In my opinion we would be better off starting with a widely accepted standard like SLD as a basis of a feature styling standard I'm right now looking at SVG. It is a full graphics description language, but maybe the styling information could be somehow picked out a

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Sampson, David wrote: GDAL has feature style specification: http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_feature_style.html It has recently gained some new interest. Well, GDAL is close to the FOSS4G community so why not start with this and see where we can go? I think OSGEO even has some capable expertis

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> > GDAL has feature style specification: > http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_feature_style.html It has > recently gained some new interest. > Well, GDAL is close to the FOSS4G community so why not start with this and see where we can go? I think OSGEO even has some capable expertise somewhere in

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Actually the origional point was valid; SLD is pretty darn WMS specific. That is why we got them to split it into two; SLD for the WMS concepts of layers and so on; and SE for the really good part (FeatureTypeStyle and friends). For more fun and games drop by the osgeo standards email list and

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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 06:08:06PM -0400, Christopher Schmidt wrote: > Some support for SLD exists in: > * MapServer > * GeoServer > * OpenLayers (and things which build on top of it) * uDig (read/write and advanced mode for direct editing of XML) * ArcMap -> SLD conversion (http://arcmap2sld

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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:28:18PM +0300, Ari Jolma wrote: > OGC Styled Layer Descriptor specification does not impress me, and it's > WMS implementation specific. Huh? Why doesn't it impress you? It's the closest thing to a standard that exists. Some support for SLD exists in: * MapServer * G

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Ari Jomla wrote: > GDAL has feature style specification: > http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_feature_style.html Hey, that's pretty cool. Almost JSON or WKT-like. MapGuide has a similar XML-based stylization schema: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc14 Jason ___

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> ESRI seems to have .mxd files, which is their map definition file. It's > a binary format and probably not documented. Then they have ArcXML (AXL) > which serves the same purpose () as Mapserver mapfiles. BTW, mapfile > format is a result of a lot of thought and practical experience. I > believe

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Brent Fraser kirjoitti: Ari, Traditionally, there has been no widely adopted vendor/system-independent format for specifying style information. Hopefully now that there is an organization (the OGC) addressing open standards for geographic data (including styling: SLD) there will be more suppo

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yeah From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sampson, David Sent: Mon 14/04/2008 21:28 To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library > > Thanks for the pointer, that's a nice dataset. Opening these > 39 l

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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Ari Jolma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The second thing would be to have a free OSGeo map symbol set, which the > map description file would refer to and the software use when creating the > map. > > Do I make any sense? Absolutely. I have created a wiki page for

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Hey folks, Lots of good discussion going on around this proposed library. >From the sounds of it there are many different camps of thinking on this subject which is great. Of course there are many approaches that can be used. Perhaps we might want to talk a little more about the high end user ne

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> > Thanks for the pointer, that's a nice dataset. Opening these > 39 layers makes me ask why there's no style information? > Pardon my ignorance on digital cartography, but is it because > of standards or something else? > How do Arc* tools do it? > Think of three separate boxes. One is t

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ginal Message - From: "Ari Jolma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "OSGeo Discussions" Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library > Brent Fraser kirjoitti: > > Bruno, > > > > Have a go with

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Brent Fraser kirjoitti: Bruno, Have a go with my favorite Canadian topographic map (NTS:082H04, "Waterton Lakes" ): Shapefiles: http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/canvec/50k_shp/082/h/canvec_082h04_shp.zip Thanks for the pointer, that's a nice dataset. Opening these 39 layers makes me ask

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Hi Bruno, > OK, but... you do know that this is only true for small datasets. > For large datasets FOP is a bad choice performance wise. > For instance: if you have to convert an XML to a PDF and you > expect the end result to be 50 pages, Apache FOP might be a > good choice. If you expect 10,00

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or data is quite rich in geometry and attributes so it should make a "killer" pdf. Brent Fraser GeoAnalytic Inc. Calgary, Alberta - Original Message - From: "Bruno Lowagie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "OSGeo Discussions" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:26 P

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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Bruno Lowagie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Lowagie wrote: > > > As soon as I have the time, I'll make you some examples. > > > > My main problem is that I haven't been on a GIS project since 1997. > Can somebody provide me with some (completely free!) sample

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Paolo Cavallini wrote: So the question is: is there a free (as speech) and Open Source full blown PDF viewer? I think OSGeo is about open source software. I'm a F/OSS developer, so I'm going to use my standard answer: "What's keeping you from adding OCG support to Evince?" *LOL* My own library

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Bruno Lowagie ha scritto: > Evince is as they promote it "simply a document viewer." > It's not a full blown PDF viewer (well, maybe it is for > most users, but for me as an avid PDF user it isn't). > Evince doesn't support all the features that are explained > in the PDF Reference manual. OCG was

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On 14.04.2008 10:31, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Bruno Lowagie ha scritto: On the left, you have a menu. With this menu you can CHANGE the language of the street names. They are in English by default, but you can change them into French or Dutch. You also have menu options to visualize where to fin

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Paolo Cavallini wrote: All this does not show off in evince, however. Evince is as they promote it "simply a document viewer." It's not a full blown PDF viewer (well, maybe it is for most users, but for me as an avid PDF user it isn't). Evince doesn't support all the features that are explained

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library

Bruno Lowagie ha scritto: > On the left, you have a menu. With this menu you can CHANGE the language > of the street names. They are in English by default, but you can change > them into French or Dutch. > > You also have menu options to visualize where to find hotels, museums, > etc... This is o

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Bruno Lowagie wrote: All I need is a zip file with limited data of, for instance, a city. Any city will do. As long is I just get the raw vector data and a small explanation of how to use it. What I'd like to do with that data, is to provide some examples like this one: http://itext.ugent.be/pe

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Jachym Cepicky wrote: www.openstreetmap.org The site isn't working for me. "While trying to retrieve the URL: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/ The following error was encountered: * Read Error The system returned: (104) Connection reset by peer An error condition occurred while reading d

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www.openstreetmap.org j Bruno Lowagie píše v Po 14. 04. 2008 v 07:26 +0200: > Bruno Lowagie wrote: > > As soon as I have the time, I'll make you some examples. > > My main problem is that I haven't been on a GIS project since 1997. > Can somebody provide me with some (completely free!) sample da

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Bruno Lowagie wrote: As soon as I have the time, I'll make you some examples. My main problem is that I haven't been on a GIS project since 1997. Can somebody provide me with some (completely free!) sample data: - vector data with streets and street names in multiple languages - vector data of

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Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: For me the question of PDF is not limited by number of pages, or options that PDF offers, but whether or not it is an efficient format for sharing cartographic information - for which, so far, I'd say it fails miserably. How many times have I went to a municipal m

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On 13-Apr-08, at 9:23 AM, Bruno Lowagie wrote: If you make the map in PDF, you could provide the legend as a floating annotation that can be moved around by the user. If you are using OCG, you also have the Optional Content panel that can be used as a legend and that can be used to make certain l

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Dave Patton wrote: Actually, dealing with "the legend", or the contents of the entire map collar, is non-trivial, however, a library that can render the content within a map's neat line has all the tools necessary to be able to render the map's collar. The difference may be that there would need

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library

Ari Jolma wrote: Markus Neteler kirjoitti: Dear OSGeo, I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" 3) a mechanism to allow plugins that add legends etc. on the map 3) is rather straight-forward Actually, dealing with "the legend", or the contents of the entire map

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christopher Schmidt < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:18:48AM +0300, Ari Jolma wrote: > > I'm still very much interested in this. Cairo would provide a single API > > to render to an image buffer, on PDF and others. It has good support for >

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library

Hello Ari, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ari Jolma > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:19 AM > To: OSGeo Discussions > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library > > Markus Net

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On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:18:48AM +0300, Ari Jolma wrote: > I'm still very much interested in this. Cairo would provide a single API > to render to an image buffer, on PDF and others. It has good support for > rendering text with various fonts and there are high-level language APIs. > > Current

Re: FW: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library

Hi, this mail was forwarded to me, and I immediately subscribed to the mailing list to set something straight. Rushforth, Peter wrote: In the XML world, the answer to graphics rendering is SVG + XSL-FO, generated by XSLT scripts according to styling rules. XSL-FO is then rendered via a formatti

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Markus Neteler kirjoitti: Dear OSGeo, I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to share concepts, source code and regression tests: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Cartographic_Library I proposed a year ago to develop a geospatial graphics library based on Cairo

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Hi all, among the OS GIS we are trying Map Layouts especially for Geoscience 1. using OpenJUMP where in tools are present for rotating Geological structural symbols. We have even printed to judge the accuracy of scale. 2. Shape file to SVG is a convenient option to color the final output in Inks

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Michael, > (Is GeoPDF open now? I was under the impression that they > were claiming IP in there, but my info is a couple years old.) Not that I know of. Maybe one day? In the meantime, the pipeline still has what it takes to generate good map series: GML +/- (any XML data) + SLD/FE + WMS gr

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1:56 AM > To: OSGeo Discussions > Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library > > Hi, > > This is an interesting discussion! > > In the XML world, the answer to graphics rendering is SVG + XSL-FO, > generated by XSLT scripts according to styling

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Hi, This is an interesting discussion! In the XML world, the answer to graphics rendering is SVG + XSL-FO, generated by XSLT scripts according to styling rules. XSL-FO is then rendered via a formatting objects processor, like Apache FOP. I'm of the opinion that a pipeline like: GML +/- (any

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I've tried to group some of discussion into various components that I think are being discussed all at once: 8.1 Style & Layout Configuration Standards 8.2 Graphical Style & Layout Editor 8.3 Graphical Map Composition Editor 8.4 Rendering Engine 8.5 Libraries I'm personally less interested in

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lf Of Arnulf Christl Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:46 AM To: OSGeo Discussions; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library Frank Warmerdam wrote: > Markus Neteler wrote: >> Dear OSGeo, >> >> I would like to launch the idea of an "

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Frank Warmerdam wrote: Markus Neteler wrote: Dear OSGeo, I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to share concepts, source code and regression tests: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Cartographic_Library GRASS, QGIS and others are in the need of own map printing too

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Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library On 7-Apr-08, at 1:53 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: > I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to > share concepts, source code and regression tests: Thanks Markus - you beat me to it!

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(OSGeo) Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:36 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library On 7-Apr-08, at 1:53 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: > I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to > share concepts, source cod

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2008/4/7, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > GUI-based map design tools are > the bane of productivity in many offices I've been in Spot on! -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.224 = GG86jc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osg

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On 7-Apr-08, at 1:53 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to share concepts, source code and regression tests: Thanks Markus - you beat me to it! :) Having grown up learning ArcPlot, I long for the ability to compose maps and output th

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l 07, 2008 2:53 AM Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library > Dear OSGeo, > > I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to > share concepts, source code and regression tests: > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Cartographic

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Markus Neteler wrote: Dear OSGeo, I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to share concepts, source code and regression tests: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Cartographic_Library GRASS, QGIS and others are in the need of own map printing tools for high quality outp

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I have noticed over the years the unmatched quality of prints from GMT. Unfortunately GMT is not user friendly. I also found out I print to PDF first then send the PDF to the printer, this ensure best quality check. However I think PDF has issues with transparency. sent from my iPhone!

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Dear Markus, I think this is a VERY good idea!! There's definitely a need for something like this that would help to get uniform output from a number of applications using the same markup. Ciao, Jeroen On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: Dear OSGeo, I would like to launch t

[OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library

Dear OSGeo, I would like to launch the idea of an "OSGeo Cartographic Library" to share concepts, source code and regression tests: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Cartographic_Library GRASS, QGIS and others are in the need of own map printing tools for high quality output but these projects sh