Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from the Cradle

2016-05-15 Thread Marc Vloemans
Congrats Patrick! Vriendelijke groet, Marc Vloemans > Op 16 mei 2016 om 02:48 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) > het volgende geschreven: > > I love Open Source Geospatial software! > It helps life to live on and on and on. . . > So in the cradle-to-cradle spirit of a sustainable world, > WorldW

[OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from the Cradle

2016-05-15 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
I love Open Source Geospatial software! It helps life to live on and on and on. . . So in the cradle-to-cradle spirit of a sustainable world, WorldWind has just ‘officially’ released Android version 0.2.0 https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindAndroid/releases/ If you have an Android device, f

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marco Afonso
Hi Cameron, An amazing elaborate criteria about project aspects I must say. I'm also amazed how much criteria was defined to evaluate project's software quality, which is zero! What about performance? OS compatibility? Dependencies? usability? UI/UX? Code tests? problem solving features? depreca

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Cameron Shorter
Hi Marco, You might want to re-read the OSGeo Incubation Checklist [1], which is quite clear in the definition of a graduated OSGeo project. (It is option 1 by your definition below). [1] http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html On 16/05/2016 3:45 am, Marco Afo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marco Afonso
Hi all, Could some answer what is the % of the ponderation weight of software quality and the % of the ponderation weight of the project organization in incubation decision? The first criteria is technologicaly measureable. The second is not. Your evaluation method open the following possibilit

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Peter Baumann
great to have you in, Rob! Please allow me a few days until after the holidays, I'll come back. -Peter On 05/15/2016 06:29 PM, Rob Emanuele wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Thank you for the invitation. I have just registered, and am looking forward > to working with you. > > Best, > Rob > > On Sun, May 15

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Ian Turton
Marco, I think you have missed the point of my tales, both the projects that I wrote about are open source (by any definition) but only the one with an open organisation is thriving. OSGeo is designed to support open and sustainable development of geospatial solutions. A benevolent dictatorship i

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Rob Emanuele
Hi Peter, Thank you for the invitation. I have just registered, and am looking forward to working with you. Best, Rob On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Peter Baumann < p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > Hi Rob, > > excellent, now we are getting into technical discussion. > > I did not say

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Peter Baumann
Hi Rob, excellent, now we are getting into technical discussion. I did not say that rasdaman is the best in the universe under all possible constellations, but we do have both theoretical considerations and practical results that suggest that rasdaman performs outstandingly well on n-D arrays. Y

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Rob Emanuele
Apologies for veering off topic. Hi Peter, Thanks for citing your resources. Unfortunately I can't access the one paper, since the only version I could find is behind a paywall, and the bar chart you attached gives very little information; from these I cannot understand the methodology or results

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Moritz Lennert
On 15/05/16 14:40, Marco Afonso wrote: Hi Anita, Aha! So there is a ponderation weight on software quality evaluation AND project organization evaluation. So you can exclude an open source software with high quality if their organization evaluation is low. For me that seems wrong. A software o

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Peter Baumann
aside from the misconception about science, and that this discussion is all but "open" spirit: why then does OSGeo not have enough courage and refuse rasdaman publicly (after 6+ years!), instead of providing a forum for some (!) people to rant and insult? -Peter On 05/15/2016 12:06 PM, Christian

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
Marco, Open management of a project has nothing to do with the quality of the software (scientific evaluation). Nevertheless OSGeo want to "label" projects that are considered a good option for production environment. It means that when a company, organization or group select the software it doesn

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marco Afonso
Hi Anita, Aha! So there is a ponderation weight on software quality evaluation AND project organization evaluation. So you can exclude an open source software with high quality if their organization evaluation is low. For me that seems wrong. A software on a public repository is only limited by

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Anita Graser
Hi Marco, On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Marco Afonso wrote: > > Once the software (as an object) is available on a public repository, it > only matters it's license terms to evaluate it's restrictions. From there, > it is irrelevant "whos behind it". > ​Here I have to strongly disagree. Imho,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marco Afonso
Hi Christian, >From my point of view, Open Source software is still open source and software. It must be treated as an independent object. It is irrelevant who is the organization/person that created. Once it respects the Open Source principles, the evaluation must be independent and upon the ope

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Christian Willmes
arguing in pro for science, to claim and use (at least in my view) fraudulent/wrong organization for a project, like authoritarian hierarchical structures, as (sadly and wrongly) also applied in most educational organizations around the world, as a "suitable" governance model, is not right. The

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marco Afonso
Hi, Maybe all OSGeo software should be reviewed using independent methods and technological tests or else it can be seen as closed community with it's own truth like religion. Please think about it. Cheers Em 15/05/2016 10:15, "Peter Baumann" escreveu: > Hi Sanghee, > > according to WIkipedia

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marc Vloemans
Peter, Again, I am still awaiting an answer that addresses the concerns raised in/by the community. Vriendelijke groet, Marc Vloemans > Op 15 mei 2016 om 10:59 heeft Peter Baumann > het volgende geschreven: > > Marc, > > it puzzles me that all over the (derogative, right?) word "dictat

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Peter Baumann
Hi Sanghee, according to WIkipedia [1], /*Science*//^[nb 1] //is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes //knowledge //in the form of testable //explanations

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Peter Baumann
Marc, it puzzles me that all over the (derogative, right?) word "dictatorship" is eagerly used while you now frown on "activist". If we are minding language now we should _all_ be careful. -Peter On 05/15/2016 03:22 AM, Marc Vloemans wrote: > Peter, > > With regard to Rob's comments: I conclud

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Peter Baumann
- Kamalika Das (NASA - Ames Research Center), Thomas Clune (NASA Goddard Space Flight Center), Kwo-Sen Kuo (Earth System Science Interdisciplinary Center), Chris A Mattmann (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), Thomas Huang (NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory), Daniel Duffy (NASA Center for Climate Simulation),

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marco Afonso
Hello, Thanks for clarifying Marc. Software quality is measured by scientific and technological tests like performance, usability, UI/UX, etc... In case of OpenSource software, the "social criteria" should be stricted to the FOSS freedoms. Any evaluation not based on these independent criteria i