Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-09-07 Thread Brian Mathis
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: ca...@petalphile.com [mailto:ca...@petalphile.com] On Behalf Of >> carlo >> >> I think the 20% rule is a good one, but ultimately I think its best to defer >> conversations about expected salary (especially if you're still in the

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-09-01 Thread Nick Webb
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Stephen Potter wrote: > On 8/27/2011 6:49 AM, Luke S. Crawford wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 08:27:03PM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >>> >>> When you're on the market, how do you determine your own value? >> >> What I'm getting now plus 20%. > > I think,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-09-01 Thread Stephen Potter
On 8/27/2011 6:49 AM, Luke S. Crawford wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 08:27:03PM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: When you're on the market, how do you determine your own value? What I'm getting now plus 20%. I think, particularly in this day and age, 20% changes in the US market is pretty m

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Tracy Reed [mailto:tr...@ultraviolet.org] > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:45:45PM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey spake thusly: > > I find an approximate salary range up front is worth while for both sides to > > know. Because it's a waste of time to go through all the interview process, > > only

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-29 Thread carlo
Well, there's at least two bits here: 1) You want to go through those interviews anyway. Your offer letters is the most important data-set for determining your market value. You're not wasting your time. 2) How are you supposed to know what you want until you meet the team? Lets say it was a s

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-29 Thread Tracy Reed
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:45:45PM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey spake thusly: > I find an approximate salary range up front is worth while for both sides to > know. Because it's a waste of time to go through all the interview process, > only to discover it was never possible... That's fine as long

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: ca...@petalphile.com [mailto:ca...@petalphile.com] On Behalf Of > carlo > > I think the 20% rule is a good one, but ultimately I think its best to defer > conversations about expected salary (especially if you're still in the HR/pre- > screening bit of an interview, and not the technical b

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-29 Thread david
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, carlo wrote: I think the 20% rule is a good one, but ultimately I think its best to defer conversations about expected salary (especially if you're still in the HR/pre-screening bit of an interview, and not the technical bits yet) because, well, you're just going to low ball

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-29 Thread carlo
I think the 20% rule is a good one, but ultimately I think its best to defer conversations about expected salary (especially if you're still in the HR/pre-screening bit of an interview, and not the technical bits yet) because, well, you're just going to low ball yourself. Interviewing while employ

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-29 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > I have my own thoughts on this subject, of course, but I'd like to hear what > you guys say. > > > > When you're on the market, how do you determine your own value? The job offers I get are an index to my perceived value. I start out by

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-27 Thread Luke S. Crawford
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 08:27:03PM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > I have my own thoughts on this subject, of course, but I'd like to hear what > you guys say. > > > When you're on the market, how do you determine your own value? What I'm getting now plus 20%. Obviously, this means that i

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-26 Thread Josh Smift
When I've been looking for a job, I've historically asked for something close to my current salary: Possibly higher if the new job has fewer perks, or the same or even a little lower if the new job has more (e.g. is in academia rather than dot-com craziness... hypothetically). But I've had the good

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Market value

2011-08-26 Thread Nick Webb
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > When you're on the market, how do you determine your own value? > I go to payscale.com and enter my skills, and the offer in hand, then aim for about 70% of the top value considering where I feel I am experience wise. It seems to be a