Re: [lopsa-discuss] Does LOPSA have a project manager?

2015-02-25 Thread David Lang
If everyone had the priorities that you described, no volunteering would ever happen :-) There are probably a bunch of people who could help with specific tasks or who could fill in for someone else, but how do they find out what needs to be done? How much work is needed to get them access to

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What is a System Administrator

2015-02-25 Thread Elijah Wright
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Doug Hughes wrote: > > (today) to contribute a new description. You could possibly pull some > nuggets from this with respect to communication skills, but all references > to technology are woefully dated. > > e.g. ability to port C programs from one environment to

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Does LOPSA have a project manager?

2015-02-25 Thread Edward D'Azzo-Caisser
Maybe we should turn this around. I don't think we have a project management problem, I think we have a doer problem. So it makes more sense to wedge someone into the org chart at the bottom, who can be thrown into any project that's currently short handed. Manpower is a resource and LOPSA is comp

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What is a System Administrator

2015-02-25 Thread Moose Finklestein
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Doug Hughes wrote: > > > e.g. ability to port C programs from one environment to another. > > s/C/perl or python// SHIP IT! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.lopsa.org https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Does LOPSA have a project manager?

2015-02-25 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Craig Constantine wrote: (disclosure: I'm not a proj mgr, I am not good at pm, and I do not want to be a pm for lopsa.) The more I try to help actually do things, the more I'm working with other volunteers who seem to be very over-worked. (Mind you, it seems they bring t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What is a System Administrator

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hughes
IMHO, the old sage descriptions are quite dated (see another recent thread in the archives relating planning for sysadmin/machine ratios that has some intersection) and responsibilities have expanded beyond that, but also changed significantly in some ways. Unfortunately, I'm not helpful enough (to

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What is a System Administrator

2015-02-25 Thread Jerald Sheets
Our current relationships notwithstanding, what was wrong with the old SAGE job descriptions, or andy LISA materials we have on the matter. This has been hammered out ad-nauseum years ago. > On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 02:45:26PM -0600, Mark Hon

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What is a System Administrator

2015-02-25 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 02:45:26PM -0600, Mark Honomichl wrote: > As a new board member, one of the tasks that I have taken on is to create a > definition of what a System Administrator is, especially in the context of > LOPSA, so I am curious to here what the membership thinks a SysAdmin is. > You

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What is a System Administrator

2015-02-25 Thread Jean-Marie Joly
Mark, In the epilogue of The Practice of System and Network Administration you may find a pretty good definition (actually frustrating): “Makes things work." Beyond that story, I liked that the whole book gave a really broad definition of sysadmin. Cheers Jean-Marie On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:

[lopsa-discuss] What is a System Administrator

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Honomichl
As a new board member, one of the tasks that I have taken on is to create a definition of what a System Administrator is, especially in the context of LOPSA, so I am curious to here what the membership thinks a SysAdmin is. You can respond on the list, directly to my inbox, or via Reddit ( http://w