Re: [lopsa-discuss] 2014 LOPSA-Live Session w/ Board Candidates

2014-05-07 Thread Aaron Sachs
Hi folks, Just a quick reminder we'll be starting in ~40 minutes. I look forward to seeing you in #lopsa-live. Aaron On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Aaron Sachs wrote: > Hello fellow LOPSA Members! > > Election time is once again upon us, and your chance to get to know the > upcoming board ca

Re: [lopsa-discuss] creating a recruiter blacklist

2014-05-07 Thread Jo Rhett
Atom, my own experience matches Jerald’s. Trying to determine how to do that effectively will be tricky. In my own experience it has rarely gotten a response, and never once produced a change in results. The goal of the blacklist would be to introduce a cost to their failure. As I just said to

Re: [lopsa-discuss] creating a recruiter blacklist

2014-05-07 Thread Jerald Sheets
I’ve been doing this manually for a number of years now. I’ve even gone as far to look up the organization’s website and find the highest ranking person I could find and then call for them, saying I’m with $company (usually mine) and then letting him have it. The biggest abuse, in my opinion,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] creating a recruiter blacklist

2014-05-07 Thread Atom Powers
This sounds like an interesting project. Do you intend to report abuse before blacklisting? I suspect that at least some of the problems could be mitigated simply by reporting the behavior to the appropriate manager within the recruiter's organization. And if that doesn't help then it wouldn't be

[lopsa-discuss] creating a recruiter blacklist

2014-05-07 Thread Jo Rhett
So the job market is hot hot hot again (at least out here in Silicon Valley / SF) and we’re back again to the days where “talented recruiters” contact me in spite of clear statements not to, and concerning jobs with zero match on my skillset. Their own job experience shows their last job was fli

Re: [lopsa-discuss] 2014 LOPSA Board election slate

2014-05-07 Thread Daniel Rich
We had this very discussion as a board as soon as Mike turned in his resignation. In fact we even talked about changing the bylaws to just allow all 5 to be elected, but several of us (myself included) are uncomfortable with changing the rules of an election a matter of weeks before that electio

[lopsa-discuss] Looking for Summer Computer Camps/Courses South Jersey Area

2014-05-07 Thread john boris
I am posting this to the Tech list and also to PLUG and apologize for any dupes. I am searching for a Computer Camp that teaches Scratch in the South Jersey Area that offers it for 7 year olds.. I know this is a bit tight scope but you gotta ask. I have googled and haven't found any yet.close by,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] 2014 LOPSA Board election slate

2014-05-07 Thread Elijah Wright
It's a thing that can be unofficial policy, until someone raises their discomfort with it. The right thing to do would *eventually* be to encode it into bylaws, I think, so that you can always fall back on rules of order, and say that the membership has established that this is how they want this

Re: [lopsa-discuss] 2014 LOPSA Board election slate

2014-05-07 Thread Tom Perrine
That sounds like a great way to solve the problem without a by-laws hack. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Derek Balling wrote: > Tom, > > The by-laws don't allow for it as a part of the official "process". > > Nothing in the by-laws, however, stops the board from committing, as the > board, to s

Re: [lopsa-discuss] 2014 LOPSA Board election slate

2014-05-07 Thread Derek Balling
Tom, The by-laws don't allow for it as a part of the official "process". Nothing in the by-laws, however, stops the board from committing, as the board, to simply appoint the 5-place candidate to the vacancy. D On May 7, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Tom Perrine wrote: > The bylaws may or may not allo

Re: [lopsa-discuss] 2014 LOPSA Board election slate

2014-05-07 Thread Tom Perrine
The bylaws may or may not allow for those kinds of election processes. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Willard Dennis wrote: > Ah, OK. I knew there would be a reason after I sent my message ;) > > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Derek Balling wrote: >> >> You'd want to go through the motions b