Re: [lopsa-discuss] Dan Geer on the state of Professionalization in Cybersecurity

2013-10-26 Thread Tracy Reed
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:47:52PM PDT, rac...@anl.gov spake thusly: > Most people in the CyberSecurity are also in the Information Security realm. What's the difference between the two? Other than that government seems to be in love with the word "cyber" while the commercial world seems to avoi

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Dan Geer on the state of Professionalization in Cybersecurity

2013-10-26 Thread rackow
One major flaw in your example is that as a system administrator, it's not your job to dig through every line of the web application to see if it is following best practices. Going back to the medical profession stuff that was used earlier, it's not just the Doctors that are considered professio

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Dan Geer on the state of Professionalization in Cybersecurity

2013-10-26 Thread Michael Tiernan
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Joseph Kern wrote: > That definition identifies the following characteristics of a professional: > >> I'd like to add one thing to the mix. I'm not sure how to clearly define it but a profession would also require a backing that provides for legal ramifications.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Dan Geer on the state of Professionalization in Cybersecurity

2013-10-26 Thread Will Dennis
Yes, that would be great! Thanks! I'll email bofs@usenix to request the room now. - Will -Original Message- From: Pamela Lynn Howell [pamelahow...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 02:13 AM Eastern Standard Time To: Will Dennis Cc: Discuss@lists.l