[lopsa-discuss] SF Bay Area: BayLISA meeting Thursday 11/17 - Message Systems and Board Elections

2011-11-15 Thread Robert Novak
For those of you outside the SF Bay Area, apologies for the imposition. For those of you in the San Francisco Bay Area of California this week... Here's a friendly reminder of the upcoming BayLISA meeting this Thursday, November 17, at 7:30pm. We're meeting at the usual location, LinkedIn's 2051

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How long do you think until System Administration becomes regulated?

2011-11-15 Thread Simon Lyall
Thats not the way it works in the US. What happens there is the profession collects some money from it's members, lobbies [1] the right politicians and then the profession is regulated. You now have some "insiders" with a big stake in keeping wages up and the entry price into the profession

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How long do you think until System Administration becomes regulated?

2011-11-15 Thread Josh Smift
MD> I suspect what members of LOPSA want and don't want will be MD> irrelevant, because regulation is usually pushed on professionals by MD> the public they serve (and who are failed and burned by the chancers). It depends -- my sense is that licensing requirements (i.e. requirements that people t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How long do you think until System Administration becomes regulated?

2011-11-15 Thread Mark Dennehy
I suspect what members of LOPSA want and don't want will be irrelevant, because regulation is usually pushed on professionals by the public they serve (and who are failed and burned by the chancers). As to mechanics, well, it's different where I come from - they are regulated in Ireland, the traini

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Shipping racks

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Ryder
Those are nice racks. It depends on distance, cost and your time requirements. We shipped a full rack 2500 miles and it took almost 2 weeks. I don't think you can avoid the copious wrapping -- any worthy shipper is going to want to make sure your article is undamaged. What distance? How long c

Re: [lopsa-discuss] How long do you think until System Administration becomes regulated?

2011-11-15 Thread david
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. wrote: Yeah...this kind of question might stir up more sides if it were posed to a list that wasn't LOPSA Since, isn't one of the reasons we belong to LOPSA is that we want this to happen. Not everyone in LOPSA wants regulation of system admin

[lopsa-discuss] Shipping racks

2011-11-15 Thread Martin James Gehrke
Anyone have an experience or pointers on shipping racks? I need to get an empty 48U APC rack packaged and shipped. They arrive bolted to a pallet with copious wrapping. Seeing as they cost ~1200, if this costs too much we'll just a new one. Thanks, Martin

[lopsa-discuss] CHIMIT workshop at LISA 2011

2011-11-15 Thread Tom Limoncelli
I am fascinated by the fact that there are researchers that study system administrators and how to make their work easier/better/etc. The #1 thing they tell me is "we need more interaction with more sysadmins to help guide our research!" The "CHIMIT workshop" at Usenix LISA 2011 is an opportunity t