Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Jefferson Cowart
On 01/26/2011 07:13 PM, Damion Alexander wrote: > David Lang wrote: >> I think there is also a bit of the unix world being 'here are the >> tools, build exactly what you want' and people need to ask for help >> (or get blueprints or cheat sheets for doing things) where on >> windows the options ten

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Jefferson Cowart
On 01/26/2011 05:44 PM, Luke S Crawford wrote: > Evan Pettrey writes: > >> I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily involved >> in the online community and the real-life community (i.e. professional orgs >> like LOPSA) seem to be Linux admins. Why is it that Linux admins t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Michael Ryder
I too agree with David for the most part. The vast majority of my systems are Windows-based, though I've dabbled in Linux (to setup Nagios, for example), and in general it seems... It seems that Windows "just runs" right out of the box. There is very little need to find a community for informati

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Damion Alexander
- Original Message - > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Evan Pettrey wrote: > > > I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily > > involved > > in the online community and the real-life community (i.e. > > professional orgs > > like LOPSA) seem to be Linux admins. Why is it that L

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Hacker News discusses system administration as a profession

2011-01-26 Thread Luke S Crawford
Aaron McCaleb writes: > Heh...I think this is a safe statement for most of us. > > Also, don't forget that if such publications will eventually be a > service offered by LOPSA, there absolutely must be a solid peer review > process. Oh yes. And if you can establish a solid and respected peer

Re: [lopsa-discuss] hard drive failures

2011-01-26 Thread Dan Foster
FWIW, I've seen various types of drive failures: - Our IBM RS/6000 B50 servers were infamous for losing both internal drives within 24-36 hours of a data center brownout. Rather reliable in that respect. :P Not a single data center, either. Other R

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Luke S Crawford
Evan Pettrey writes: > I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily involved > in the online community and the real-life community (i.e. professional orgs > like LOPSA) seem to be Linux admins. Why is it that Linux admins tend me to > be so much more involved do you guys thin

Re: [lopsa-discuss] hard drive failures

2011-01-26 Thread david
well, clear information that I'm not remembering correctly is a benfit as well. I really don't want to replace 300+ drives (especially out of budget), and if I don't have to do so and don't have to worry about having lots of failures take me down. David Lang On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, John Clear

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread david
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Evan Pettrey wrote: I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily involved in the online community and the real-life community (i.e. professional orgs like LOPSA) seem to be Linux admins. Why is it that Linux admins tend me to be so much more involved do

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Evan Pettrey
Sorry...I should have said *nix, not Linux. Thanks for the answers so far! On Jan 26, 2011 8:17 PM, "Aleksey Tsalolikhin" wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Evan Pettrey wrote: >> I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily involved >> in the online community and the

Re: [lopsa-discuss] hard drive failures

2011-01-26 Thread John Clear
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:14:17PM -0800, da...@lang.hm wrote: > > My datacenter just had a problem and the air temp in the 'cold isles' got > over 105F over about 75 min. I'm trying to make the case that I need to be > proactive and replace drives in large arrays that were in that area, but I

Re: [lopsa-discuss] hard drive failures

2011-01-26 Thread Tracy Reed
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:14:17PM -0800, da...@lang.hm spake thusly: > My datacenter just had a problem and the air temp in the 'cold isles' got > over 105F over about 75 min. I'm trying to make the case that I need to be > proactive and replace drives in large arrays that were in that area, but

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Tracy Reed
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:03:54PM -0500, Evan Pettrey spake thusly: > I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily involved > in the online community and the real-life community (i.e. professional orgs > like LOPSA) seem to be Linux admins. I have noticed this very same thin

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Evan Pettrey wrote: > I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily involved > in the online community and the real-life community (i.e. professional orgs > like LOPSA) seem to be Linux admins. Why is it that Linux admins tend me to > be so much

[lopsa-discuss] hard drive failures

2011-01-26 Thread david
I seem to remember seeing some studies in the last few years about hard drive failure rates, specifically addressing the trend for drives to fail en-mass starting several weeks _after_ a datacenter AC failure. However, I don't remember where I saw this, so I was wondering if anyone could point

[lopsa-discuss] Why Do Linux Admins Seem To Be So Much More Involved in the Community?

2011-01-26 Thread Evan Pettrey
I've noticed that the vast majority of sys admins who are heavily involved in the online community and the real-life community (i.e. professional orgs like LOPSA) seem to be Linux admins. Why is it that Linux admins tend me to be so much more involved do you guys think? Personally I guess I fall a