Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread markw
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:24 -0400 > ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: > >> You can't make a general argument about a specific example. I have an >> 8 core AMD FX with 16G ram. It isn't running ZFS, but it is running >> an MD RAID5 with 5 4T SCI disks. > > I didn't. I made an example of something that

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread markw
I'm going to let you in on a trick I do all the time for quick and dirty VMs, ready touch vmimage.raw truncate -s 32G ls -l vmimage.raw -rw-rw-r-- 1 markw markw 34359738368 Jul 29 13:29 vmimage.raw Then use that as storage for the VM. It is a thin provisioned raw image. Or, if you have ZFS

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Rich Pieri
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 09:14:15 -0700 Kent Borg wrote: > says it should do. Ah, but I won't need any in-bound networking, so > it will be pretty easy. But will Debian 11 Virtual Machine Manager > still put me in QCOW land? It's the same virt-manager with the same capabilities. I think it defaults t

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Kent Borg
I do note that it seems Raspberry Pi 4 apparently can run real KVM... -kb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Rich Pieri
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:24 -0400 ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: > You can't make a general argument about a specific example. I have an > 8 core AMD FX with 16G ram. It isn't running ZFS, but it is running > an MD RAID5 with 5 4T SCI disks. I didn't. I made an example of something that could reaso

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Kent Borg
On 7/29/22 09:08, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: Today, the infrastructure, KVM and virt-manager make it trivial. I got as for as playing with virt-manager GUI stuff, but it wasn't yet easy. I'll play with it again some time. Heck. Maybe I'll play with it today, I need to understand some Rails

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread markw
I remember QEMU and how difficult it was so long ago. Today, the infrastructure, KVM and virt-manager make it trivial. Its just point and clock, I'm not kidding. Ubuntu and RedHat have excellent and the VM network is created by default. If you have virt-manager installed, it just works, its almost

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Kent Borg
I did VMs at home a long time ago, and persisted through quite a few generations of the technology (some Redhat paravirtualization I forget the name of to QEMU SW emulation to real KVM), I learned a lot, but I finally became exhausted. Getting the networking set up was always such a pain. I wou

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread markw
You can't make a general argument about a specific example. I have an 8 core AMD FX with 16G ram. It isn't running ZFS, but it is running an MD RAID5 with 5 4T SCI disks. I'm running 5 VMs on it: a database VM, a mail server, a web server, a webproxy/firewall, and a dev server. The machine is down

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Rich Pieri
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 10:06:03 -0400 ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: > High availability is a fairly specialized deployment and that is > accomplished with many different strategies. KVM has provisions for > redundant high availability. You can create two servers that have > access to the same LUNs (or

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread markw
High availability is a fairly specialized deployment and that is accomplished with many different strategies. KVM has provisions for redundant high availability. You can create two servers that have access to the same LUNs (or us something like drbd) Many VERY large companies run Oracle in VMware

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Rich Pieri
On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 22:00:30 -0400 ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: > Seriously, if you you have a computer that 10 years old or younger, a > respectable amount of RAM, at least try VMs. It will change the whole > way you think about servers, services, etc. It is life altering. I was > skeptical, at fi

Re: [Discuss] ZFS on Raspberry Pi?

2022-07-29 Thread Dan Ritter
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: > > ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: > >> I agree with 100% The cloud is just someone else's computer. I was > >> referring to local machines and the use of VMs. > > > > Oh, well, sometimes that's a nice encapsulation mechanism and > > sometimes it's too much bother for what