Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-09 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
The links do not lead me to assume that top posting is expected. If the documentation group desires bottom posting only, the user should be informed when the register. Even then, I expect that most people will miss it. Expecting someone to follow a link and then follow another link seems a we

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-09 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 09/09/2011 06:05 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 9/9/11 3:40 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: The links do not lead me to assume that top posting is expected. If the documentation group desires bottom posting only, the user should be informed when the register. Even then, I expect that most

Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-09 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 09/09/2011 10:01 PM, Richard wrote: Yeah! A man without unnecessary limitations. Sadly, I have many unnecessary limitations :-) -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discu

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-11 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 09/10/2011 07:31 AM, Ken Springer wrote: On 9/9/11 11:24 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 09/09/2011 06:05 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Read it many times. I remain unconvinced. Their points assume a single style of reading email. I don't think I agree totally. I think their p

Re: [tdf-discuss] "Error in scripting framework"

2011-09-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 09/12/2011 11:39 AM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hello all "Error in scripting framework during Basic script execution" "Message: The following Basic scirpt could not be found" " bla bla bla, method, "bla bla bla location"... Is there a message uglier, scarier,and horrendous as this one above? Not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-10-02 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
Oh my, not this again... I should write a plug-in that detects bottom / top posting and then either: Filters the type you do not like, or, moves all top / bottom postings to the bottom / top. If there is sufficient time to argue this, can someone perhaps stop by and help me flatten some bo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-10-18 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
When folks choose not to follow those rules, the system breaks down and less gets accomplished. Just spent the last hour deleting spam, freezing spammer accounts, disallowing spammer IP addresses on an OOo Forum, come here and see people still arguing about top or bottom posting Sorr

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace "Floppy Disk"

2012-01-13 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I have seen a bunch of discussion related to "get rid of Floppy Disk because it is antiquated", but I am unclear on the qualifications of the people making the decisions. Is this just a random opinion one way or another, or are the participants somehow qualified or familiar with human factors,

Re: [tdf-discuss] removing mailing list prefixes?

2012-08-02 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 08/02/2012 06:56 AM, Mike Hall wrote: a) Ask those posting an initial message in a thread to put text in the subject line defining the list before sending it, thus PGP etc would work again. The disadvantage is that people won't always do it, unless the list servers check that suitable tex

Re: [tdf-discuss] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-12 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I was not aware that any list existed that did not use "reply mangling" so that the reply (by default) went back to the list Will be interested to see what occurs. On 08/12/2012 12:26 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have

Re: [tdf-discuss] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
And now I know why I have had so many double responses and then I was not sure which one I should reply to :-) On 08/13/2012 03:14 AM, Tony Pursell wrote: Florian, On 13 August 2012 02:21, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: I was not aware that any list existed that did not use "

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I do not totally agree Christian details inline... That said, your summary was easier for me to read than the list... On 09/27/2012 08:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Where's the difference between "General Discussion" & "Lounge" (or whatever name will be chosen) - it is not clear to me.

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 12/31/2012 02:40 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote: In the marketing materials that I am writing covering LO vs AOO, I was wondering if it would be relevant to go into an explanation about why the GPL/LGPL licence used by LO was superior to the ASL as a "true open source". An average user does not c

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 01/01/2013 08:19 PM, Pedro wrote: Immanuel Giulea wrote the GPL/LGPL licence used by LO was superior to the ASL as a "true open source". Any thoughts on how relevant it would be to extract some of the information and apply it on the materials? Actually it's the other way around. The ASL is

Re: [tdf-discuss] IBM donates code for Lotus Symphony to Apache

2013-01-21 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 01/21/2013 01:34 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 21 January 2013 18:20, Immanuel Giulea wrote: I know talking about Apache is not one of our main priorities. But I still wanted to share the news about Lotus Symphony and OpenOffice merging back after their fork. https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/me

Re: [tdf-discuss] Initial Reactions to 4.0.0

2013-02-09 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I have not been able to install the final release, but I have a copy of RC2 installed. I have not yet had significant experience with it, but: First the bad: I only found one problem (new bug introduced into the macro language that prevents a struct from being assigned to a property in anothe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Initial Reactions to 4.0.0

2013-02-10 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 02/10/2013 04:48 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le 10/02/2013 03:42, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak a écrit : I have not been able to install the final release, but I have a copy of RC2 installed. I have not yet had significant experience with it, but: First the bad: I only found one problem (new

Re: [tdf-discuss] Initial Reactions to 4.0.0

2013-02-10 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 02/10/2013 08:14 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2013/2/10 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak I have not been able to install the final release, but I have a copy of RC2 installed. I have not yet had significant experience with it, but: First the bad: I only found one problem (new bug introduced into the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Initial Reactions to 4.0.0

2013-02-10 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 02/10/2013 02:44 PM, Jochen wrote: Am 10.02.2013 03:42, schrieb Andrew Douglas Pitonyak: When will 4.0.1 be released? Hard code freeze & branch libreoffice-4-0-1 Week 8, Feb 18 - Feb 24, 2013 RC1 Week 8, Feb 18 - Feb 24, 2013 RC2 Week 9, Feb 25 - Mar 3, 2013 Release 4

Re: [tdf-discuss] Article about LibreOffice, brands, etc

2013-02-16 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 02/15/2013 11:10 AM, Keith Curtis wrote: Hi; I wrote an article in support of LibreOffice, submitted it to lxer.com, and it was their top story of the day: http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=3163 Some of what I wrote might be impolitic about a sensitive issue. I'm not trying to troll this old

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Dual licensing of patches and code

2013-03-08 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
My reading of the answers is 1. It depends on how interesting they find the contribution. 2. Some members would vote no because the code is also available under a more permissive license. It is clear that if you provide code to AOO, then LO is able to take the code, but it is not clear that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/15/2013 03:45 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Any payments and/or donations must be accounted for and if the person paying has any intent it to go to xyz, then by regulations we may need to account for that payment/donation and where it went to. That is the real problem with targeted donations a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Calc: let things such as formulas do the rest of the work

2014-06-12 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/11/2014 05:52 AM, david_lynch wrote: I sent the message below to the users list. The moderator replied that I should raise the issues on this list. >>>>>>>> In a recent "Macro's in Libre Calc" thread, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak, an expert on macros, w

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Base Enhancements

2014-07-28 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/28/2014 07:32 PM, Terrence Enger wrote: A big downside of Sqlite is its dynamic typing, a.k.a. advisory typing. IMO, this is simply broken. Terry. I think that this is intentional, so, I don't think it is actually broken. I never bothered to investigate the motivation for it. I find

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Base Enhancements

2014-07-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/29/2014 12:06 AM, Terrence Enger wrote: With respect to dynamic column typing in SQLite, On Mon, 2014-07-28 at 20:34 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: I think that this is intentional, so, I don't think it is actually broken. I never bothered to investigate the motivation f

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest

2011-06-21 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I proposed a talk on OOo / LO and plan to attend. Did not put in much time on the proposal so not sure if it will be accepted. If something is happening there, count me in. On 06/21/2011 02:46 AM, John LeMoyne Castle wrote: Seems to me this thread used to be longer in Nabble 8-0 I am still int

Re: [tdf-discuss] When can we have a API to send Emails ?

2011-06-23 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/22/2011 08:18 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote: For some reasons the developpers off the OO-API has decided to not allow sending Emails using there API I believe that all of these use the command line to send an email message using an existing client, which then limits the message that can be s

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest

2011-06-23 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/21/2011 11:08 AM, drew wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 08:25 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: I proposed a talk on OOo / LO and plan to attend. Did not put in much time on the proposal so not sure if it will be accepted. If something is happening there, count me in. No formal

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Font Embedding in ODF (was RE: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review)

2011-06-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/25/2011 01:14 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Dennis Le 2011-06-25 12:40, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : PS: Since August 2008, when I became a member of the ODF TC, I don't recall any conclusion that font embedding is out of scope for the OpenDocument Format. I don't know what such an assertio

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Font Embedding in ODF

2011-06-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/25/2011 02:09 PM, Nuno J. Silva wrote: On 2011-06-25, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote The problem is that the research I've been doing about this subject has been leading me to the position that LibO/OOo is not going to implement it because it must be implemented in ODF, and because ODF won't su

Re: [tdf-discuss] New "LibreOffice Reader" Eliminates Need for "PDF Reader"

2011-07-06 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/06/2011 03:45 AM, Robert Derman wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: On 5 July 2011 21:58, Robert Derman wrote: e-letter wrote: As far as the request for the ability to download individual components of LO, this should not be enabled. The whole concept of the predecessor staroffice product was to

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-20 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/20/2011 08:15 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Robert Derman wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote: e-letter wrote: It is difficult to understand why a business would waste time trying to use LO; if a customer uses m$, the supplier might as well do so also and consider the m$ price as a cost of conductin

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-20 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/20/2011 05:02 PM, e-letter wrote: On the users mailing list, a significant proportion of a random view of questions seems to be with relation to using LO is some way with m$ document formats. What should be the priority of LO development: bug-free and excellent behaviour in native odt form

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/21/2011 08:47 AM, e-letter wrote: On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote I am more comfortable in OOo than I am in MSO, so, I have created many MSO deliverables in OOo and LO. The only time that I make an exception is when I believe that I am not able to seamlessly move between

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/21/2011 09:43 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 21/07/2011 14:23, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: I am of the opinion that good inter-operability with MSO products makes it easier to attract new users and that poor inter-operability with MSO products makes it more difficult. I quite

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-22 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/22/2011 10:24 AM, e-letter wrote: On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 07/21/2011 08:47 AM, e-letter wrote: On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote I am more comfortable in OOo than I am in MSO, so, I have created many MSO deliverables in OOo and LO. The only time

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/25/2011 06:40 PM, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi, On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:54:14 -0400 Steven Shelton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/22/2011 7:23 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Even worse, given that MSO has the greatest market share it means that most legacy

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/24/2011 03:48 AM, e-letter wrote: On 22/07/2011, Christophe Strobbe wrote: At 02:33 21-7-2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 07/20/2011 05:02 PM, e-letter wrote: On the users mailing list, a significant proportion of a random view of questions seems to be with relation to using

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/28/2011 04:54 PM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi What you say is almost that we should give up on ODF and stick with Microsoft formats... I would prefer that LO import MSO format flawlessly but not export them at all... Olivier 1. What other file formats should be dropped? All other compet

Re: [tdf-discuss] feature expansion or bug minimisation?

2011-08-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 08/11/2011 11:55 AM, e-letter wrote: Readers, A recent feature request prompted the strategic question: what is more important, minimising bugs or adding new features? Of course, the ideal answer is to do both (;)), but remember, the question is to choose only one answer... Short answer: Bu