Hi Jean, *
Am 19.10.2010 08:46, schrieb Jean Hollis Weber:
> On Mon, 2010-10-18, André Schnabel wrote:
>> To get things started, I put some notes at the wiki:
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership
> It looks good to me and covers most of the points I am familiar with in
> other
Hi,
> Von: Jean Hollis Weber
> It looks good to me and covers most of the points I am familiar with in
> other volunteer organisations.
>
> The "ND Manifesto" is mentioned twice, but I don't know what or where
> that is.
thanks for the reminder - I changed the text to be links.
André
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When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via Gmane
*without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists themselves? Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it *and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the purpose of the Gmane interface.
NB Gmane already i
Hi Paul,
It is unfortunate indeed that your first experience with the Libreoffice
community has left you feeling this way, and whilst I agree that such
fledgling communities often lack in diplomacy and professionalism where
they are overflowing with enthusiasm, their general aims are
praiseworthy
Hi Harold,
Yes, I noticed that too, which is a right royal PITA.
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On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 09:15 +0200, Erich Christian wrote:
> Hi Jean, *
>
> Am 19.10.2010 08:46, schrieb Jean Hollis Weber:
> > On Mon, 2010-10-18, André Schnabel wrote:
> >> To get things started, I put some notes at the wiki:
> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership
>
> > It lo
Cor Nouws wrote:
Andrea Pescetti wrote (17-10-10 14:47)
and the treasurer of Team OpenOffice.org e.V. happens to be from Oracle:
http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=budget&msgNo=255
and again we are back in the situation Jean correctly described as
"messy".
I would not describe
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 05:47:45AM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Fedora 14 soon to be released has OpenOffice still in its build, would it be
> possible to remove OpenOffice and use LibreOffice, like in doing
> yum remove OpenOffice.org
> and
> yum install LibreOffice
>
> Does a repo for Libr
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>> On 18/10/10 21:32, Ramon Sole wrote:
>>> Hello *,
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about Charles, but i.e in the Spanish Communitiy the
>>> Project Leader has closed the subscription to the OOo spanish mailing
>>> lists with the label "Migrating lists to TDF", and you can on
Hi,
Harold Fuchs wrote on 2010-10-19 09.52:
When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via Gmane
*without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists themselves? Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it*and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the pur
Hi Paul,
Paul A Norman wrote on 2010-10-19 04.29:
I have tried to delist from this fiasco and I am still getting emails
I propose you actually do *read* the e-mails that are sent to you.
1. E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how
to unsubscribe
2. Then you get
Hi,
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and Oracle, the
linguistic communities _including_ the English speaking community, are all
identified by a specific language marker and that all the lists that do not use
that lan
Hi Ramon, *
> Von: Ramon Sole
> >
> > I would seriously reconsider the way I deal with my volunteer
> communities.
>
> Agree. And that's they're doing exactly. They're asking TDF involved
> people to resign from their OOo responsabilities. Nobody asked to nobody
> to leave the Ooo Community. T
On 19 oct. 10, at 18:15, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
>
>> I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and Oracle, the
>> linguistic communities _including_ the English speaking community, are all
>> identified by a spec
Hallo André,
André Schnabel schrieb:
For discussion please use this mailinglist and try to keep the thread
alive. If a new thread is started, please add at least the tag [SC] and
the word "Membership" in the subject.
I'm looking forward to a constructive discussion,
Very little response so
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 03:09:56PM +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Daniel Veillard wrote on 2010-10-18 15.05:
> >I would suggest to create a blog aggegator (planet.documentfoundation.org)
> >and post both (or just links) to try to reach a larger audience.
>
> have you actually tried h
Hi Jean-Christophe,
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote (19-10-10 11:25)
On 19 oct. 10, at 18:15, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and
Oracle, the linguistic communities _including_ the English
spe
Christoph, you have a really good point. And the true that the "try to
catch" strategic is a bad one past some degree, now is the time to innovate
as MSOffice have taken a radical UI approach change and leave us with the
possibility to innovate based in the LibO / old MSOffice UI even if we start
t
Basically, you NEED to change the UI itself. According to what I've watched in
the Renaissance project of OpenOffice.org, they will try a UI that will look
like the Ribbon but a more dynamic strip of UI above and below the document
contents. After these mockups they actually similar to the rib
In data 18 ottobre 2010 alle ore 18:44:25, André Schnabel
ha scritto:
To get things started, I put some notes at the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership
I've read that post, but I think you're reiterating an old misconception
by confusing the Document Foundation wit
In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 11:12:56, Florian Effenberger
ha scritto:
1. E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how
to unsubscribe
2. Then you get "To unsubscribe send a message to:
discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org"
Maybe, you could skip passa
Hi,
Gianluca Turconi wrote on 2010-10-19 13.39:
Maybe, you could skip passage #1 and directly attach the unsubscription
address to the ML messages.
the unsubscription addresses are different for digest and non-digest
subscriptions. Therefore, I refer to the help address, which shows both
way
On 2010-10-18 6:08 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> 2010/10/17 Charles Marcus
>> On 2010-10-15 7:33 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
>>> Charles mentioned that "choice is best" ... that is true if
>>> people really know what they want and how to adapt something in
>>> their given situation. Many software products
On 2010-10-18 6:13 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
> Not trying to put words in your mouth, so to speak, but I think you
> intended without instead of with. Which I agree with. There should
> have been better planing on several levels.
This isn't productive... how about making suggestions for how to impro
On 2010-10-18 6:27 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
> Even if the Reply=To were modified, wouldn't the inclusion of the OP on
> the messages fall apart as soon as somebody didn't use Reply All?
The purpose of Reply-To header is to manage how replies are handled.
Reply All is not necessary if the Reply-To
On 2010-10-18 6:43 PM, jonathon wrote:
> On 10/18/2010 06:02 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
>>> I'd also suggest that toolbars be mergable into existing
>>> toolbars, rather than create their own new toolbar.
>> Doesn't it do this already?
> Some are. Some aren't. My suggestion is for all to be mergable.
I'm not a programmer but... If you make a choice for the end users to choose
what UI they should use. Before using LibreOffice, a dialog box will show up
saying what UI do you prefer. Classic or Modern (Just make sure put a
description as tool tips) so there will be no depreciation of UI's whet
Sorry for typing that (I was too excited for the RTM version). I have a
question... Why is the Beta 2 twice as big as Beta 1?
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2010/10/19 Xi Embalsado
>
>
> Basically, you NEED to change the UI itself. According to what I've watched
> in the Renaissance project of OpenOffice.org, they will try a UI that will
> look like the Ribbon but a more dynamic strip of UI above and below the
> document contents. After these mockups
On 2010-10-18 10:39 PM, Paul A Norman wrote:
> I've tried to delist and I am still getting emails.
What precisely have you done? Did you follow the full process, including
the *confirmation* step (seems to be the one that mtrips up most people)...
> I had some real issues with the Writer/Web html
I know... Just thirsty for change... Maybe try the Mozilla thunderbird UI in
future releases.
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2010/10/19 Xi Embalsado :
>
> Sorry for typing that (I was too excited for the RTM version). I have a
> question... Why is the Beta 2 twice as big as Beta 1?
>
It contains about fifty languages for the UI.
Regards
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On 19 oct. 10, at 19:35, Cor Nouws wrote:
>> In any case, the current "global" lists are not global, they are
>> English lists and should be identified as such.
>
> They are handling global items, as I see it.
> I do not mind if some people post there in a language that I do not
> understand (a
WOW! I could never fit a size 50 to a size 2! Well at least don't go to the
Microsoft Office size (600MB) Better make things in separate languages. Sorry
for some big comments there...
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On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 07:49 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
> ... how about making suggestions for how to improve
> things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
IIRC, several people have suggested some small changes to the current
website that would make a significant improve
Sorry... I'm new here and my inbox is getting to be 700 messages filled up.
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Hello Gianluca,
Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:37:02 +0200,
"Gianluca Turconi" a écrit :
> In data 18 ottobre 2010 alle ore 18:44:25, André Schnabel
> ha scritto:
>
> > To get things started, I put some notes at the wiki:
> >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership
>
> I've read that
On 2010-10-19 7:44 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> the unsubscription addresses are different for digest and non-digest
> subscriptions. Therefore, I refer to the help address, which shows both
> ways.
>
> We already had complaints from people who didn't manage to unsubscribe
> from the digest...
On 2010-10-19 8:11 AM, Xi Embalsado wrote:
> WOW! I could never fit a size 50 to a size 2! Well at least don't go
> to the Microsoft Office size (600MB) Better make things in separate
> languages. Sorry for some big comments there...
What would make more sense to me is to make one installer with m
On 2010-10-19 8:12 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 07:49 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
>> ... how about making suggestions for how to improve
>> things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
> IIRC, several people have suggested some small changes to the
If wee want a really customizable UI the best way is to go to something like
Mocilla XULL adapted to LibO, but is needed to put limitations to the
customization of what can be done to make the core and a UI with a good
decoupling and prevent a bloated system ( basically limiting it exclusively
to
On 2010-10-19 3:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via
> Gmane *without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists
> themselves? Currently, to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both
> it *and* the TDF lists which completely defeats the
Hi,
2010/10/19 Charles Marcus :
> On 2010-10-19 8:11 AM, Xi Embalsado wrote:
>> WOW! I could never fit a size 50 to a size 2! Well at least don't go
>> to the Microsoft Office size (600MB) Better make things in separate
>> languages. Sorry for some big comments there...
>
> What would make more se
Le 2010-10-19 07:54, Xi Embalsado a écrit :
I'm not a programmer but... If you make a choice for the end users to choose
what UI they should use. Before using LibreOffice, a dialog box will show up
saying what UI do you prefer. Classic or Modern (Just make sure put a
description as tool tips)
Hi Gianluca,
> Von: "Gianluca Turconi"
>
> I've read that post, but I think you're reiterating an old misconception
> by confusing the Document Foundation with the wider LibreOffice Community.
Hmm .. so the first topic (term definition "Member") is not very clear.
I'm not speaking about mem
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:37:02 +0200, "Gianluca Turconi"
wrote:
> I've read that post, but I think you're reiterating an old misconception
> by confusing the Document Foundation with the wider LibreOffice Community.
Fully agree. Compare the OpenStreetMap Foundation. They have about
30,000 active
On 2010-10-17 10:05 PM, Paul A Norman wrote:
> Re early discussion on Wondpws install and unpacked install files...
>
> Would they need to be present for the Windows Control Panel/ Add
> remove Programs/ Support Info -
>
> - Repair button to work?
Yes. This is why I always store these on a share
On 2010-10-19 5:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> I propose you actually do *read* the e-mails that are sent to you.
>
> 1. E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how
> to unsubscribe
>
> 2. Then you get "To unsubscribe send a message to:
> discuss+unsubscr...@documen
On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:49 , Charles Marcus wrote:
<...>
>
> This isn't productive... how about making suggestions for how to improve
> things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
(from the original post)
Action point 1: redirect TDF to LibO and not vice versa or have
On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:49 , Charles Marcus wrote:
<...>
> This isn't productive... how about making suggestions for how to improve
> things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
Better still, kill the conversation in here, as has been suggested twice now,
and continue
On Oct 19, 2010, at 14:48 , James Wilde wrote:
Sorry everyone. Pressed send instead of discard.
//James
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Hi James - I was only talking to the two people who were going on and on
with complaints... I know you and others have made some good
suggestions... :)
On 2010-10-19 8:48 AM, James Wilde wrote:
>
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:49 , Charles Marcus wrote:
>
> <...>
>
>>
>> This isn't productive... how
On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:50 , Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2010-10-18 6:27 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
>> Even if the Reply=To were modified, wouldn't the inclusion of the OP on
>> the messages fall apart as soon as somebody didn't use Reply All?
>
> The purpose of Reply-To header is to manage how rep
Hi, :-)
Maybe you could just get yourselves sponsored as an Apache Software
Foundation project and avoid a lot of duplicated work, wasted time and
endless discussion setting things up?
David Nelson
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On 2010-10-19 9:00 AM, James Wilde wrote:
>
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:50 , Charles Marcus wrote:
>
>> On 2010-10-18 6:27 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
>>> Even if the Reply=To were modified, wouldn't the inclusion of the
>>> OP on the messages fall apart as soon as somebody didn't use
>>> Reply All?
Hi all,
Bernhard Dippold wrote (19-10-10 00:23)
Hi Barbara, all,
[...]
It's hard to read all the mails and to reply to the most important only
(in my eyes).
I will probably not be able to contribute much to this thread (or to the
wiki) during the next few weeks - but I promise to stay on readi
In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:42:26, Andre Schnabel
ha scritto:
Hmm .. so the first topic (term definition "Member") is not very clear.
I'm not speaking about members of legal entity "The Docuemnt Foundation"
but of those people who will be recognised as the community able
to influence t
In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:34:33, Charles-H. Schulz
ha scritto:
I can understand why you want to make that distinction. My own
interpretation, aside the fact that we stated at the beginning what we
hear by "member", is that how we define the membership applies to
anyone, but it is base
In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:43:01, Sebastian Spaeth
ha scritto:
Fully agree. Compare the OpenStreetMap Foundation. They have about
30,000 active contributors, aka community members, but around 250 or so
active foundation members. Membership is formally acknowledged
That's what I mea
Hi Jean-Christophe,
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote (19-10-10 14:10)
On 19 oct. 10, at 19:35, Cor Nouws wrote:
In any case, the current "global" lists are not global, they are
English lists and should be identified as such.
They are handling global items, as I see it. I do not mind if some
peo
Hello Andre, *
I think my point is simple, agree or disagree:
- if you try to change things from inside and you're inside, fair play
- if you fork a project becasuse you don't want/feel able to change
things form inside and you leave, fair play
- if you fork a project becasuse you don't want/feel
Hi,
André Schnabel schrieb:
<>
> One of the very basic questions to answer is:
> "Who is a member at TDF."
>
Is there meant the membership in the TDF or in the LibreOffice-Community?
> Well - we (the Steering Committee) do not have a detailed answer on
> this, as we think that the voice of our
In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:35:45, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis
ha scritto:
If wee want a really customizable UI the best way is to go to something
like
Mocilla XULL adapted to LibO
I know people who would kill because of XUL slowness in Moz UI. :)
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On 19 oct. 10, at 23:13, Cor Nouws wrote:
>>> Joining the global users lists, gives the largest public, so more
>>> knowledge / international exchange. I find that useful in some
>>> cases.
>>
>> That works only for people who understand English. So it is not
>> global by definition.
>
> That i
2010/10/18 André Schnabel
> Hi,
>
> as you all know, we are working to make The Document Foundation an
> independent self-governing meritocratic Foundation. This Foundation should
> be lead by it's members, based on their merit.
>
> One of the very basic questions to answer is:
> "Who is a membe
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 18:25 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> On 19 oct. 10, at 18:15, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Jean-Christophe Helary wrote on 2010-10-19 02.22:
> the "global" discussion list should not be a mere "discussion" list but a
> "policy" list where only items
> true is that the user needs are the best inspiration for the innovation.
So t reach the masses we need a user interface for mobile devices and web
access but that has coding implications beyond just the UI.
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Le 2010-10-18 20:22, Jean-Christophe Helary a écrit :
I would like to propose that unlike what existed under Sun and Oracle, the
linguistic communities _including_ the English speaking community, are all
identified by a specific language marker and that all the lists that do not use
that langu
Hello Gianluca,
Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:05:50 +0200,
"Gianluca Turconi" a écrit :
> In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:34:33, Charles-H. Schulz
> ha scritto:
>
> > I can understand why you want to make that distinction. My own
> > interpretation, aside the fact that we stated at the beginning
On 20 oct. 10, at 00:05, Marc Paré wrote:
> I was under the impression that we were all in agreement, that the "lingua
> franca" of the mailists is English and that localized mailists were to
> encourage users to contribute in their own language.
I think that is a mistaken view of the issues a
On 10/19/2010 09:25 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> There is no need for a "global" user list and the "global" discussion list
> should not be a mere "discussion" list but a "policy" list
Global lists should be multi-lingual. Use it for support or discussion,
or marketing for languages or re
- Original Message
> From: Charles-H. Schulz
> Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:05:50 +0200,
> "Gianluca Turconi" a écrit :
>
> > In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:34:33, Charles-H. Schulz
> > ha scritto:
> >
> > > I can understand why you want to make that distinction. My own
> > > int
Il 19/10/2010 17.19, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
[...]
So, if I understand you well, you do indeed raise a good question, but
one which, to me, adds more gray zones. Let me rephrase how I
understand your position: you are afraid that we're mixing the
membership of the Foundation and the membe
Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:42:00 -0500,
Alexandro Colorado a écrit :
> 2010/10/18 André Schnabel
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > as you all know, we are working to make The Document Foundation an
> > independent self-governing meritocratic Foundation. This Foundation
> > should be lead by it's members, based on
Hi Jean,
I just returned from work ... and after checking my mails this morning,
there are about 250 new ones. So please bear with me if somebody already
proposed something which is similar. I answer this mail first, because
one of Jean's mails was "sticking" in my head this morning.
Am Dienstag,
Hi all!
Am Dienstag, den 19.10.2010, 11:29 +0200 schrieb Stefan Weigel:
>
> Very little response so far. My personal reason why I didn´t
> respond: 100% accordance.
+1 (but I will continue to think about that...)
> ;-)
+1 ;-)
Cheers,
Christoph
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Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:39:29 +0200,
Gianluca Turconi a écrit :
> Il 19/10/2010 17.19, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
>
> [...]
>
> > So, if I understand you well, you do indeed raise a good question,
> > but one which, to me, adds more gray zones. Let me rephrase how I
> > understand your positi
On 10/19/2010 12:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it *and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the purpose of the Gmane interface.
I agree, having to sign up in two places is inconvenient, and it
shouldn't be that way, but it doesn't defe
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Ramon Sole wrote:
> Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> >> On 18/10/10 21:32, Ramon Sole wrote:
> >>> Hello *,
> >>>
> >>> I'm not talking about Charles, but i.e in the Spanish Communitiy the
> >>> Project Leader has closed the subscription to the OOo spanish mailing
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:53 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Am Dienstag, den 19.10.2010, 11:29 +0200 schrieb Stefan Weigel:
> >
> > Very little response so far. My personal reason why I didn´t
> > respond: 100% accordance.
>
> +1 (but I will continue to think about that...)
>
> > ;
Il 15/10/2010 12:50, Petr Mladek ha scritto:
Kohei Yoshida píše v St 13. 10. 2010 v 11:55 -0400:
Sorry for the top-posting, but I wanted to preserve the context for Petr
(CC'ed).
Petr is the man you want to talk to with this sort of question. I'm
sure he'll provide more details on this.
Kohei
On 19/10/10 10:25 AM, Carlo Strata wrote:
Il 15/10/2010 12:50, Petr Mladek ha scritto:
Libò Writer -> Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Languages ->
Language of -> User interface shows only:
- Default - English (USA)
- English (USA)
Any setting yields English UI!
What's wrong? What is
Hi Daniel,
Daniel Veillard wrote on 2010-10-19 11.43:
Damn, I really had tried ... I probably failed to type this correctly
though, sorry ! I see the link now in "Contact", so really
was may fault.
no problem. I agree the website could use some improvement, and we're
working on it. :-)
On 10/19/2010 06:00 AM, James Wilde wrote:
On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:50 , Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-18 6:27 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
Even if the Reply=To were modified, wouldn't the inclusion of the OP on
the messages fall apart as soon as somebody didn't use Reply All?
The purpose of
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-19 14.37:
Was it you that complained about this before?
All you have to do is subscribe to the NOMAIL version of the list, this
way you are a member and can post, but do not get emails from the list -
so it does NOT defeat the purpose.
But... yes, absolutely
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-19 14.45:
Again, the problem is people are not REPLYING TO the confirmation email
they get.
This needs to be documented much more prominently.
I look into providing a web interface soon. In the meantime, people
simply need to read their mail ;)
Florian
Hi,
Jon Hamkins wrote on 2010-10-19 18.43:
Unless the reply should be addressed to someone other than the sender,
the Reply-To shouldn't be set. Mailing list servers often add a
Reply-To header, so that discussion is directed to the list.
the reply-to header is set on purpose. When replying
Carlo Strata píše v Út 19. 10. 2010 v 18:25 +0200:
> Il 15/10/2010 12:50, Petr Mladek ha scritto:
> > You might find the first packages at
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Unstable/
> >
> I'm preparing my notebook to the Italian Linux Day (on October the 23th).
>
> On my
On 19 October 2010 13:37, Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2010-10-19 3:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> > When will it be possible to send messages to the TDF mail lists via
> > Gmane *without* having to be subscribed to the mail lists
> > themselves? Currently, to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to b
On 2010/10/19 7:00 AM James Wilde wrote:
At the moment I'm using Mac Mail, which pulls the sender's name if I press
Reply, and everybody's name if I press Reply All. As far as I remember Outlook
has the same characteristics. I can't remember what T-Bird did on Linux and I
haven't used pi
2010/10/19 Gianluca Turconi
> In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:35:45, Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis <
> el...@users.sourceforge.net> ha scritto:
>
>
> If wee want a really customizable UI the best way is to go to something
>> like
>> Mocilla XULL adapted to LibO
>>
>
> I know people who would kil
On 2010/10/19 10:06 AM Jon Hamkins wrote:
On 10/19/2010 12:52 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
Currently,
to use Gmane you need to be subscribed to both it *and* the TDF lists which
completely defeats the purpose of the Gmane interface.
I agree, having to sign up in two places is inconvenient, and i
Le 2010-10-19 11:45, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:42:00 -0500,
Alexandro Colorado a écrit :
2010/10/18 André Schnabel
Hi,
as you all know, we are working to make The Document Foundation an
independent self-governing meritocratic Foundation. This Foundation
should be le
Hi,
Am 19.10.2010 16:11, schrieb Gianluca Turconi:
In data 19 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:43:01, Sebastian Spaeth
ha scritto:
Fully agree. Compare the OpenStreetMap Foundation. They have about
30,000 active contributors, aka community members, but around 250
or so active foundation members. Mem
Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 19.55:
Totally irrelevant statement. Learn how gmane works. Using gname has
nothing to do with spam.
if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that
their verified accounts can send to us without subscription, I honestly
don't car
Hi,
Am 19.10.2010 20:10, schrieb Marc Paré:
Hierarchy:
We need to talk about Hirachy for sure but ...
The Document Foundation is the umbrella group where all projects answer
to it. Presently, under this umbrella, there is only 1 project:
LibreOffice. There is however, the potential for
Le 2010-10-19 11:17, Jean-Christophe Helary a écrit :
On 20 oct. 10, at 00:05, Marc Paré wrote:
I was under the impression that we were all in agreement, that the "lingua
franca" of the mailists is English and that localized mailists were to encourage
users to contribute in their own languag
2010/10/19 André Schnabel :
> this just moves the problem from defining a "TDF-member" to the problem of
Here is a sarcastic definition of member :
A member of DF is someone who is not working for some big
unenlightened company (SBUC), because the act of joining that would
get you fired by said
On 2010/10/19 12:43 PM Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-19 19.55:
Totally irrelevant statement. Learn how gmane works. Using gname has
nothing to do with spam.
if even the GMANE admins cannot tell me exactly how to make it work that their verified
accounts can s
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary <
jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > • From: Bernhard Dippold
> > • Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:46:30 +0200
>
> > 2) Name these lists according to the ISO country code of the most active
> group inside this region.
>
> It is unlikely
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