Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 1/2/13 8:32 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > The problem at Apache OpenOffice is IBM with its attitude vs free > software, which does not change with time. Apache OpenOffice is free > software, althoug the presence of IBM behind the project - together with > the permissive license - is scaring for vo

RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
s@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 20:53 -0800, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I contribute to Alv2-licensed projects and I agree to the ASF rules > for Apache committers. It satisfies me that anyone who receives code &

Re: [us-marketing] Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 1/2/13 6:59 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote: > LibreOffice is a true free libre open source software (FLOSS) whereas > Apache's project is not recognized to be a free software by the Free > Software Foundation. Apache Software Foundation is definitely supporting free software, and is one of the olde

RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
on.org; Marketing; market...@us.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences Thank you everyone for your participation, it was of much enlightenment. LibreOffice is a true free libre open source software (FLOSS) whereas Apache's project is not recognized to be

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Immanuel Giulea
Thank you everyone for your participation, it was of much enlightenment. LibreOffice is a true free libre open source software (FLOSS) whereas Apache's project is not recognized to be a free software by the Free Software Foundation. LibreOffice has received the backing from several commercial part

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On 2 January 2013 16:00, Tanstaafl wrote: > I think the most important distinction to an end user, aside from knowing > that both allow them to *use* the software in any way they see fit - > personal, commercial, etc, is that the LO project is able to benefit from > AOO code, but AOO is not allow

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Tanstaafl
I think the most important distinction to an end user, aside from knowing that both allow them to *use* the software in any way they see fit - personal, commercial, etc, is that the LO project is able to benefit from AOO code, but AOO is not allowed to benefit from the LO code. On 2013-01-01

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 12/31/2012 02:40 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote: In the marketing materials that I am writing covering LO vs AOO, I was wondering if it would be relevant to go into an explanation about why the GPL/LGPL licence used by LO was superior to the ASL as a "true open source". An average user does not c

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2012-12-31 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
ode to be handled > differently." > > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 20:54 > To: 'webmaster-Kracked_P_P'; discuss@documentfoundation.org > Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs

RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2012-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
cumentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences I think Immanuel's question about what are the differences for users is more important. With regard to technicalities: It happens that ASF projects do not accept GPL/LGPL code into their code bases. Perio

RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2012-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
tributors. Some end users may want to express > their allegiance to one model or the other. In cultivating such allegiance, > it is valuable to stick to the facts. > > - Dennis > > > -Original Message- > From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2012-12-31 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
t: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:19 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences [ ... ] As I was told, LO's license will allow the developer to own the coding they are sharing with the project, where AOO's really will give that project the ownership

RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2012-12-31 Thread Immanuel Giulea
d users. It does > have ideological importance to contributors. Some end users may want to > express their allegiance to one model or the other. In cultivating such > allegiance, it is valuable to stick to the facts. > > - Dennis > > > -Original Message----- > From

RE: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2012-12-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ating such allegiance, it is valuable to stick to the facts. - Dennis -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:19 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL lice

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2012-12-31 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 12/31/2012 02:40 PM, Immanuel Giulea wrote: Hello all, In the marketing materials that I am writing covering LO vs AOO, I was wondering if it would be relevant to go into an explanation about why the GPL/LGPL licence used by LO was superior to the ASL as a "true open source". I found this gr