Hi,
Len Copley wrote on 2011-04-12 14.35:
Hi, no I did not receive a reply, to any of my unsubscribe e-mails.
1. did you check your spam folder?
2. If nothing is in your spam folder, please send the unsubscribe e-mail
again, and then forward (not Cc!) it to me. I will then have a look into
t
Hi, no I did not receive a reply, to any of my unsubscribe e-mails.
On 12/04/2011 8:17 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hello,
Len Copley wrote on 2011-04-12 12.57:
Hi yes I sent about three or four.
please *READ* my e-mail *THOROUGHLY*:
1. Did you send an empty e-mail to users+unsubscr...@li
Hello,
Len Copley wrote on 2011-04-12 12.57:
Hi yes I sent about three or four.
please *READ* my e-mail *THOROUGHLY*:
1. Did you send an empty e-mail to users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org?
2. If so, did you receive an automatic reply back?
3. If so, did you send the *CONFIRMATION* e-mail as de
Hi yes I sent about three or four.
On 12/04/2011 6:42 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hello,
Len Copley wrote on 2011-04-12 12.39:
I know what you are going through, as I to have tried to unsubscribe, as
some of the people on this forum do not have a great education an become
quite abusive. It
Hello,
Len Copley wrote on 2011-04-12 12.39:
I know what you are going through, as I to have tried to unsubscribe, as
some of the people on this forum do not have a great education an become
quite abusive. It is not worth being on this forum, when it is taken to
the lowest common denominator.
I know what you are going through, as I to have tried to unsubscribe, as
some of the people on this forum do not have a great education an become
quite abusive. It is not worth being on this forum, when it is taken to
the lowest common denominator.
On 9/03/2011 6:10 PM, Bill Sippo wrote:
NoO
On 09/03/2011 NoOp wrote:
> Note: it seems that I've fallen into this category on the OOo list;
> after 5 years of posts, I'm suddenly no longer subscribed, nor can I
> comment on OOo bug reports any longer unless I create a new
> username/password... but that's another story
Yes, that is another
Hi Charles,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-12 20.00:
I know... but the pain would be one time only. Unless you are planning
on building a complete web interface for mlmmj, I just don't see a
practical alternative, other than continuing to see these stupid
'UNSUBSCRIBE ME NOW OR I'LL SUE EVERY
On 2011-03-12 7:56 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> to be serious: Do not think we will migrate the mailing lists soon. It
> will be *A LOT* of work,
Maybe not... I'll go check and see if there is an easy way to migrate
the archives and user accounts (the two hardest part of the migration
I'm gues
Hello Charles,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-11 22.20:
Then there is one massive reason to plan to switch to mailman once
version 3 is ready (sounds like only a matter of months), since that
version will remove all of the other objections, and provide a nice web
interface for people to manage
Hi Charles, *,
Charles Marcus schrieb:
> On 2011-03-11 4:16 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
>>> I have seen no - ZERO - reasonable explanation as to how this
>>> causes *more* trouble... please reiterate...
>> O.K.: All subscribers not subscribed for "normal" mail will get
>> trouble. recall: no
On 2011-03-11 4:16 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
>> I have seen no - ZERO - reasonable explanation as to how this causes
>> *more* trouble... please reiterate...
> O.K.: All subscribers not subscribed for "normal" mail will get
> trouble. recall: no universal unsubscribe for whatever subscriptio
On 2011-03-11 1:39 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-11 19.15:
>> Does mlmmj not have a web interface for list members?
> Nope.
Then there is one massive reason to plan to switch to mailman once
version 3 is ready (sounds like only a matter of months), since that
ve
Hi Charles, *,
Charles Marcus schrieb:
> On 2011-03-11 9:52 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
>> Charles Marcus schrieb:
>>> So change the footer to something like:
>>> Unsubscribe: E-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
>>> List Help: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
>>
Nope.
Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-11 19.15:
Does mlmmj not have a web interface for list members?
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On 2011-03-11 10:47 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-11 14.52:
>> 2. Don't require the user to REPLY to the email - include a clickable
>> LINK in the email they can click on to execute the unsub request.
>
> mlmmj does not provide that out of the box. Some
On 2011-03-11 9:52 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
> Charles Marcus schrieb:
>> So change the footer to something like:
>>
>> Unsubscribe: E-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
>> List Help: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
>> Archive: http://listarchives.documentfounda
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-11 14.52:
2. Don't require the user to REPLY to the email - include a clickable
LINK in the email they can click on to execute the unsub request.
mlmmj does not provide that out of the box. Someone would have to code it.
Florian
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Ste
Hi Charles, *,
Charles Marcus schrieb:
> On 2011-03-11 6:55 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
[..]
> So change the footer to something like:
> --
> Unsubscribe: E-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
> List Help: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org
> Archive: http://listarch
On 2011-03-11 6:55 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Again: No matter how fat discaimers or how often you write
> instructions on the website: You will *always* have to deal with
> stupid people.
That's true, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't make things as clear
and simple as possible to minimize
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:29 AM, NoOp wrote:
> On 03/10/2011 05:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, NoOp wrote:
>>> On 03/09/2011 06:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> [...]
>>> to share your expertise with us, without calling people stupid or
>>> ignorant, come b
Hi,
NoOp wrote on 2011-03-11 04.51:
Then perhaps a reminder email after 48 hours going back to advise
something along the lines of:
honestly, I think this makes things even more complicated.
Note to Florian: Starting next week I'll install mlmmj on one of my test
servers and see if I can ga
On 03/10/2011 05:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 03/09/2011 06:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> ...
>>> And you mentioned that one could have learned from OOo lists:
>>> Ha, that is a good one. The OOo lists have explicit unsubscribe
>>> ins
On 03/10/2011 02:47 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
> Hi Charles, *,
>
> Charles Marcus schrieb:
>> On 2011-03-10 8:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
>>> The one situation where unsubscribing is "difficult" is when the
>>> reply asking for confirmation to unsubscribe is flagged as spam and
>>> t
Hi Charles, *,
Charles Marcus schrieb:
> On 2011-03-10 8:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> The one situation where unsubscribing is "difficult" is when the
>> reply asking for confirmation to unsubscribe is flagged as spam and
>> thus not sorted to the user's inbox, but then again that's not th
On 2011-03-10 8:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> or they're too
> dumb/stupid/ignorant to read the automatic reply asking for
> confirmation (i.e. another reply).
> The one situation where unsubscribing is "difficult" is when the reply
> asking for confirmation to unsubscribe is flagged as spam a
On 03/10/2011 03:08 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
...
> infrastructure budget. I'm not commenting on the language (you also
> insulted me above, so don't throw the first stone), but he surely knows
> what he is doing in technical terms.
My sincere apologies.
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Hi Florian, NoOp, *,
Florian Effenberger schrieb:
> NoOp wrote on 2011-03-10 06.10:
[..]
> If you have a good proposal, let me know. We, however, tried every
> solution, and mlmmj seemed best.
+1
> What we, and that's where I agree with you, need is some web interface
> that helps users in man
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, NoOp wrote:
> On 03/09/2011 06:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> ...
>> And you mentioned that one could have learned from OOo lists:
>> Ha, that is a good one. The OOo lists have explicit unsubscribe
>> instructions in *every* footer, but still people complain ab
On 2011-03-10 7:16 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> sure, they can - the logon in Mailman is solely with a password, so no
> matter if you get notified or not, you can always open the magic URL and
> look into the queue.
Dang, you're right, I forgot it only asks for password...
Wonder if that can
Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-10 12.58:
Do you? You can simply remove the moderators email address from the web
interface, and they can no longer moderate, even if they have the
password, because they are no longer a moderator - same for Admins.
sure, they can - the logon in Mailman is
On 2011-03-10 6:52 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
> Shared password *never* is a good idea. You don't know, where they are
> and if You have to change the moderaters group - i.e. excluding some -
> for any reason, the change of password is obligatory and affects all
> active moderators.
Do you? Y
Hi Charles, *,
Charles Marcus schrieb:
> On 03/09/2011 02:07 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> 1. Moderation via e-mail is not comfortable. It especially requires
>> one password shared among all moderators, which is inconvenient.
> Why is this inconvenient?
Shared password *never* is a good id
On 03/09/2011 02:07 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Mailman has not been chosen mainly out of two reasons:
>
> 1. Moderation via e-mail is not comfortable. It especially requires one
> password shared among all moderators, which is inconvenient.
Why is this inconvenient?
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Hi,
Charles Marcus wrote on 2011-03-10 12.27:
Mailman 3 will be solving this for good, but one alternative until it is
Yep, heard about it, but no one knows when it will be released. :/
released would be to identify each list in the listname itself rather
than the domain, ie:
Instead of:
On 2011-03-09 5:10 AM, Bill Sippo wrote:
> A while back I joined the users mail list, and since then have been receiving
> in my in-box each day a large number of messages, more than I can handle, so
> I've been trying to unsubscribe. I'm using the information and unsubscribe
> link from the bo
On 2011-03-10 6:08 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Yes. But it would *not* be possible to have something like
> @de.libreoffice.org, @it.libreoffice.org or @us.libreoffice.org then, at
> least not as we have it now. Look at the Ubuntu page. All lists reside
> at the same subdomain. Quoting from th
Hello,
NoOp wrote on 2011-03-10 06.10:
No idea& no real preference other than the ablity for the user to login
and modify their profile settings& subscribe/unsubscribe. That said I
Which settings do you want to user to change? Basically, only his
address as well as the subscription type, o
Hi Bill,
Bill Sippo wrote on 2011-03-09 11.10:
A while back I joined the users mail list, and since then have been receiving
in my in-box each day a large number of messages, more than I can handle, so
I've been trying to unsubscribe. I'm using the information and unsubscribe
link from the bot
On 03/09/2011 06:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
...
>
> And you mentioned that one could have learned from OOo lists:
> Ha, that is a good one. The OOo lists have explicit unsubscribe
> instructions in *every* footer, but still people complain about not
> knowing to unsubscribe. So having that i
On 03/09/2011 02:07 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Mailman has not been chosen mainly out of two reasons:
>
> 1. Moderation via e-mail is not comfortable. It especially requires one
> password shared among all moderators, which is inconvenient.
>
> 2. Although virtual domains are s
NoOp sbcglobal.net> writes:
>
> Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list
> subscribe and unsubscribe issues.
>
> ..
> ... However, the
> current issue of mail list subscribers not being able to
> subscribe/unsubscribe/modify
On 03/08/2011 07:05 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
> 4. Why is it necesary to send an email for unsubscribe instructions?
>
> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org
> etc at all? Hello... is this some type of secret handshake that takes
> place to get off of the users list?
>
> This
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